The changing face of Chapeltown

[That easy]

I was watching the Parliament channel yesterday and the Labour MP for Chesterfield Toby Perkins brought a point of order about pub companies. He stated that since 2010 pubs were closing at a rate of 18 a week. At one point he gave way to a Conservative backbencher who made the point that during Labours time in office pubs were closing at a rate of 50 a week. Toby was offended by that, accusing the MP of political pointscoring, but isn't that what Toby Perkins was trying to do by saying "since 2010...."? why did he start from 2010?

Edited January 10, 2013 by That easy

[kirakk]

Sadly it's not only chapeltown.

The ball inn has joined the many pubs that are now gone in Ecclesfield.

I used to go in The Oak on a Saturday night,it was always full of the older end as opposed to chavs.

I didn't go in the ball at night, but was told it was full of chavs stinking of drugs.

It is to let but needs a proper landlord/manager to get anyone to go back in there.

I don't think the oak will have this problem though.

[Dot]

Royal Oak was the best pub in Chap when I used to go in there but that was 25 years ago!!

[Tradescanthia]

I remember the Belchers running the Oak. Their son, Alwyn, trained our Olympic Gold Medalist boxer, Nicola watsername [cant remember her second name]. He was a tidy boxer himself. I was a Coach and Horses man, Ossie Burkinshaw had it then. Chapeltown thrived in those days, good pubs, good businesses, a proper community. But, times change, often for the worst.

[Gazza58]

I remember the Belchers running the Oak. Their son, Alwyn, trained our Olympic Gold Medalist boxer, Nicola watsername [cant remember her second name]. He was a tidy boxer himself. I was a Coach and Horses man, Ossie Burkinshaw had it then. Chapeltown thrived in those days, good pubs, good businesses, a proper community. But, times change, often for the worst.

 

Remember the ossie days very well,i was more of a carousel regular though.

[gnvqsos]

I remember the Belchers running the Oak. Their son, Alwyn, trained our Olympic Gold Medalist boxer, Nicola watsername [cant remember her second name]. He was a tidy boxer himself. I was a Coach and Horses man, Ossie Burkinshaw had it then. Chapeltown thrived in those days, good pubs, good businesses, a proper community. But, times change, often for the worst.

 

Do you mean Nichola Adams from Leeds?

[WaveyDavey]

To Let sign is now up outside the pub. Hopefully someone will snap it up soon.

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Dave.

[Owethemnowt]

I don't think pubs are particularly attractive or safe places nowadays. They reflect how society has changed and the only community involvement in many of them is when druggies do their deals there.

 

The tough stance illustrated by one land lord is a good step but if it were to catch on then the police would intervene to protect human rights and allow the violent yobs and dealers back in.

 

PC Britain for you.

 

Then again would anyone want to be sharing a bar with the under 30s who get fuelled up and leg less even before they go to town? And that's just the women.

 

And finally ................. I was asked by a complete stranger young enough to be my son, what I was doing there. In the pub! So much for community then. I felt obliged to leave for my own safety.

[LeMaquis]

The tough stance illustrated by one land lord is a good step but if it were to catch on then the police would intervene to protect human rights and allow the violent yobs and dealers back in.

 

PC Britain for you.

 

It's ironic that on a thread complaining about pubs closing, someone who seems to have had quite a lot to drink before 3pm manages to post the biggest pile of rubbish so far. Human rights to allow drug-dealing? You must be on summat 80% proof.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with pubs closing. It's pure supply and demand. If people don't want pubs they close and the anti-social behaviour that comes out of them disappears or stays indoors as people drink there. There are still plenty of decent pubs where people go to socialise and not get drunk or doped up. They'll survive.

[kermit103]

To Let sign is now up outside the pub. Hopefully someone will snap it up soon.

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Dave.

 

Not viable, I looked into a very similar pub not so long ago and worked out I would have to sell 20 pints of beer/lager per hour 7 days a week to just break even. So a pub now unless freehold will never really work.