Centertainment – no parking and then ticketing

[Penistone999 10]

Not really as its only like getting junk mail

 

you not wrong mate

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[Penistone999 10]

just seen this thread. went to cinema with wife, when we come out all cars parked on pavement and back roads had tickets. though not police issue ticket, the ticket is from another company.

 

?Another money making scam:loopy:

 

what is the uk coming to, we are getting Sc**ed from every angle

 

As Eccolad rightly says , Just treat it like you would with a flyer shoved under your windscreen wipers........ screw it up and bin it.

[top4718 838]

You don't normally need to drive around from A to B in the city centre. It needs to be a place which is easy to get around on foot, where pedestrians are not in conflict with massive flows of traffic. The access loop system they use here is used extensively elsewhere in large towns and cities.

 

The need to do this kind of thing has developed over years as car ownership and usage has increased massively. Years ago, there were not the same levels of traffic as there are now, so it wasn't as big a problem.

 

You can't drive though the mall at Meadowhall can you? So what makes you think you ought to be able to drive up the main shopping areas in town?

 

You also forget that the city centre is also a business district and has a much bigger leisure offer than Meadowhall. It's not just a shopping centre.

 

 

The telephone payment service costs the Council money. Why shouldn't the user pay for the service if they want to use it?

 

Replacing the machines is costing the Council a lot of money, why should they lose income by rounding costs down? They didn't ask the government to change things!

 

 

 

Because they don't know how much it is. The machines aren't sophisticated enough to tell them.

 

As I have said, the private sector control the vast majority oof parking in Sheffield and they charge 24/7. Sheffield motorists actually get a good deal, in other similar cities, Nottingham, Manchester for example the Councils charge for parking off street and on street until later in the evening

 

 

The Council's parking operation is run as a business. It has substantial costs and has to make a return. There is no statutory obligation on the Council to provide parking at all, never mind free or cheap parking.

 

We can argue these points until we are both blue in the face but if what you say is true why have all these things happened only in the last few years and why is the city centre dying a slow death while Meadowhall thrives.

 

You only succeed in convincing yourself.

[Planner1 442]

We can argue these points until we are both blue in the face but if what you say is true why have all these things happened only in the last few years and why is the city centre dying a slow death while Meadowhall thrives.

 

You only succeed in convincing yourself.

Why have what things only happened in the past few years?

 

Why is every town and city centre struggling? There's been a recession and people don't have as much money. Also there have been major changes in shopping habits.

 

I've also seen comments on this forum regarding the quality of the shops in Meadowhall since the recession hit. They aren't immune from it.

 

Meadowhall has the advantage of being planned for a a particular use from the off and built in a location which offered the best road access (I understand it has the highest footfall from public transport of any similar uk shopping centre though, so it isn't all car use). The city centre does not have that advantage, it grew from a centuries old traditional base, like most towns and cities, with the advantages and disadvantages that brings. The city centre is also far more than a shopping/leisure centre, you are not comparing like for like.

[Planner1 442]

No, but you can park free , access the shopping centre easily without any one way systems, stupid bus lanes and cycles lanes, in fact Meadowhall recognize that the majority of people drive ,and as such they have made themselves very car friendly, unlike sheffield city centre.

And that's because they built it from scratch in a location with excellent road access with just that in mind. The city centre does not have that advantage.

[Squiggs 11]

I'll guarantee you one thing...

 

Make parking in the city centre free and there will be NOWHERE to park for any shoppers. The spaces will be filled with secretaries, bank tellers, bank managers, solicitors, job centre advisors, job seekers, office workers etc etc

Meadowhall doesn't have that issue to cope with.

 

It's not cycle lanes that are the problem, as superdream's OCD would suggest, as cycle access to Meadowhall is also easy being on the National Cycle Network

 

It;s just the luxury of being a purpose built, retail-only, development

[top4718 838]

I'll guarantee you one thing...

 

Make parking in the city centre free and there will be NOWHERE to park for any shoppers. The spaces will be filled with secretaries, bank tellers, bank managers, solicitors, job centre advisors, job seekers, office workers etc etc

Meadowhall doesn't have that issue to cope with.

 

It's not cycle lanes that are the problem, as superdream's OCD would suggest, as cycle access to Meadowhall is also easy being on the National Cycle Network

 

It;s just the luxury of being a purpose built, retail-only, development

 

The above is easily solved, make city centre parking free at weekends, not many of the above mentioned would be wanting to park then, it would also greatly boost the centre shops and businesses.

[Penistone999 10]

The above is easily solved, make city centre parking free at weekends, not many of the above mentioned would be wanting to park then, it would also greatly boost the centre shops and businesses.

 

That would mean the council using some common sense, . When was the last time you saw any of that emerge from the town hall corridors. ?

[Planner1 442]

The above is easily solved, make city centre parking free at weekends, not many of the above mentioned would be wanting to park then, it would also greatly boost the centre shops and businesses.

The city centre shops, cafes, bars, restaurants etc are all open at weekends. The people who work in them get there before the shoppers.

 

The Council car parks are already free on Sundays. You don't have to be an Einstein to work out who gets the prime parking spots.

 

So how exactly is giving free parking to city centre workers going to be a boost to the shops and businesses?

[top4718 838]

That would mean the council using some common sense, . When was the last time you saw any of that emerge from the town hall corridors. ?

 

Exactly mate, my point entirely, councillors are elected to serve the publics needs but do nothing of the sort.

 

To say that Meadowhall was planned with traffic in mind as part of its design is true, city centres were not exactly designed to keep people out but have been made so, I know many people who will not even attempt to drive in or near the city centre so do not visit it, as for a stranger coming in the road system is awful, what should be short routine journeys are a nightmare due to closed off roads, the closing of Furnival Gate is a prime example, one of the quickest routes out of the city to the Parkway is inaccessible forcing cars onto a ridiculous one way system INTO the main pedestrian area!!!!

 

Its true there is a recession on so the centre should be made more accessible with free or reduced cost parking at weekends, John Lewis has its own reasonably priced car park where you pay after your stay and recieve change if you dont have the correct money, this makes people feel they are being treated fairly and the shop is alway packed.

 

Its amazing how the council can afford to set up a phone line to pay parking charges on at an extra cost but not machines that give change (these are common place in most vending machines these days).

 

My original point was that the council use grubby underhand tactics to fleece people out of money, nothing anyone has said so far has made me change that view.

[BHRemovals 10]

Ahh Mr Bond has a lot to answer for

[wibbles 10]

General arguments aside, I think it's clear that Centretainment 'parking' is no longer suitable for use. Centertainment could do more to be a responsible entertainment provider especially if they are so concerned about parking. Issuing fines on a regular basis does nothing to educate people on alternative parking or travel arrangements.

Maybe if they had a specific park & ride, offered discounts to park at Arena on non-event night etc etc.

People parking on the pavement is wrong and a risk to pedestrians so the council should be taking an active role in reminding Centretainment of their responsibilities and also encouraging the above in a more constructive manner