ANGELUS Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I have just seen the news regarding this today Full story is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm Well, I'm firmly blaming the driver.. even though the police have said there was no excessive speed- travelling at 50mph on an icy road is just totally stupid and I am totally not surprised the driver lost control of the car. I feel very sorry for the families of the people who were killed in this tragic event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowefan Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I live a few miles from the accident. It is a notoriously bad road, and had been very icey overnight I think it was just a bad accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidster Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I love cycling (well used to until last year) but as a cyclist i am ever aware of cars travelling in the opposite direction. They come around corners at speeds that are completely ridiculous sometimes. Until the whole facts are released we will not know who (if anyone) is to blame. I'm just sorry for everyone involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX1138 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I ride on the pavement when there are no pedestrians on it all the time cos of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robS35 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Just read the report on the BBC news website, now maybe its me but i find this statement by Cheif Inspector Lyn Adams a little odd. The driver has lost control because of ice on the road. There is no indication to suggest that it is down to something like excessive speed. I would say the vast majority of crashes like this are caused by drivers going far too fast in icy / dangerous road condtions, regardless of if they where brakeing the speed limit or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depoix Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Originally posted by robS35 Just read the report on the BBC news website, now maybe its me but i find this statement by Cheif Inspector Lyn Adams a little odd. The driver has lost control because of ice on the road. There is no indication to suggest that it is down to something like excessive speed. I would say the vast majority of crashes like this are caused by drivers going far too fast in icy / dangerous road condtions, regardless of if they where brakeing the speed limit or not. some drivers dont have the expieriance to drive in bad conditions, i wont take my car out when its bad weather,not because i lack the expierience,its the other drivers that scare me, doing 50 mph on icy roads should be treated by the police as driving without due care and attention to say the least condolences to the families of the cyclists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendygs Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Originally posted by depoix some drivers dont have the expieriance to drive in bad conditions, i wont take my car out when its bad weather,not because i lack the expierience,its the other drivers that scare me, doing 50 mph on icy roads should be treated by the police as driving without due care and attention to say the least condolences to the families of the cyclists Although I am a non-driver and dont own a car I entirely agree with depoix. Even in good weather conditions the way some people drive around is extremely alarming. Just very glad I'm not the driver of this particular car; quite how they will be able to live with themselves could pose them a serious problem for the rest of their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I hope this driver never forgets what they've done. The driver will have known how bad the road gets and selfishly felt protected in its steel carcus as all car drivers do. We all have the freedom to make choices and decisions and sometimes they are the wrong ones and you have to pay the price. It was an accident, accidents are catalogues of errors which there were plenty. Cause and effect, laws of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmr44 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 God that's awful. My thought are with their families. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick2 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Even if the driver does turn out to be to blame he won't get any kind of punishment, unless you call a £50 fine and 3 months driving ban punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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