hard2miss Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Well according to the Sun... 3 out of 4 of us want the human rights act dumped, so I thought I would set up a poll to see if Sheffield forum users reflect the same sentiment as those who read the Sun. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4257750/Three-out-of-four-Brits-want-rights-act-dumped.html I for 1 think its turned into a joke and has given the minority a veto over the rights of the majority. What is best for society has always been the case for hundreds of years and laws to reflect that have been in place, and amended as need be, without the need for the HRA which gives individuals rights over what's best for the general population. This is my view on it anyhow, I'm sure you all have opinions so look forward to reading them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 As a British, English, Yorkshireman I expect my Country to make ALL it's own laws and administer fair justice to all. Is that too much to ask, as for the HRA, the quicker it is binned the better. Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Scrap the HRA?! Won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthedog Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Scrap the HRA?! Won't happen. Why? Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The European Convention on Human Rights is a worthy agreement and something that we should all try and live by. However, the UK Human Rights Act that insists that we abide by European Commission and Courts interpretation & implementation of that Convention is seriously flawed and allows miscarriages of true justice. For example: Many cases come to light when individuals gain what is often unfair protection under Article 8: Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence. The same Article does also allow for this 'right' to be affected by: '... the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.' I believe that when someone has been convicted of a crime, the rights/freedoms of others affected by that crime should take precedence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Article 8 is a very good example of why the HRA as it stands in process is causing so many problems. It is the most used article by foreign criminals seeking to not be automatically deported at the end of their sentance. Yet the aritcle iself is very explicit that it should not be used for such a purpose stating "There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. UK law is very explicit that foreign criminals (over 12 month sentances and below that in certain offence categories) should be deported and that this is conducive to the public good. The article clearly states that is a permitted exception. So why the hell are we even entertaining article 8 appeals at a cost of millions when both uk law and the echr are actually singing off the same hymm sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The Act only works if everyone follows the guidelines. Unfortunately, our enemies don't. So I don't think we should treat them as fellow "Humans" if they choose to behave like animals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxon51 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 It appears that the non-human scum seem to be the ones who always benefit from it so scrap it I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The HRA is fine, it's the abuse of it that people object to. Those of you who want to scrap it should remember that the HRA was created to prevent millions of innocent people just like you being sent to the gas chambers ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The HRA is fine, it's the abuse of it that people object to. Those of you who want to scrap it should remember that the HRA was created to prevent millions of innocent people just like you being sent to the gas chambers ever again. I think that you may be confusing the European Convention of Human Rights with the The Human Rights Act of the UK Parliament 1998? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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