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  1. Everything to do with Corbyn and his fellow racists though. Let's face it, those racists aren't welcome in Labour any more. The door has closed, they will either self-destruct or drift off into whatever fetid pit of anti semitic darkness they inhabited before 2015. It's time for the nice decent people to move on and forget about this embarrassing and dangerous episode.
  2. This falls very much into the "so what?" category of first-world non-problems. Universities in the EU27 nations still accept UK students and UK universities still accept students from EU27 nations.
  3. I remember another group protesting outside Sheffield cathedral. We got rid of those filthy racists too, mainly through allowing them to speak freely in this very forum, and letting them dig their own hole. Not much changes when it comes to filthy racists, they all self destruct sooner or later.
  4. I believe it is a little less than half of the annual intake at Sheffield University.
  5. Mainly himself. The others just followed the Leader.
  6. 1. I'm all for home-grown produce and as short a field to plate distance as possible. My dad grows fabulous onions. Some years. 2. Terrible isn't it? You'd approve of some sort of big logo on produce then? Onion A has a union jack with 100% on it, Onion B has a union Jack with "0% British" above a Spanish flag with "100% Spain". 3. I *think* you're misrepresenting it a tad. The important mutual restrictions are around open ended state aid which isn't at all unreasonable. Otherwise, Honda could send free components (courtesy of Japanese state aid) to be fitted in UK built cars to undercut UK made companants. It doesn't preclude state aid at all.
  7. We're about to drift into one of my areas of interest - localism, or "nationalism" as you might accidentally badge it. Motivation for buying locally - and I mean as locally as possible - should be developed and encouraged. That's going to be especially relevant in the next couple of years with the after effects of Covid 19 in economically underperforming areas such as Sheffield. The value of a local pound to the local economy is much higher when people choose to buy from local suppliers, preferably selling locally produced goods. In short, £1 can be worth as much as £6-7 when it's respent locally. For example; buy a newspaper from your local newsagent instead of WH Smith. Definitely don't have an online subscription instead. That £1 spent in your local family newsagent goes directly into the proprietor's family budget. They respend a larger proportion of that £1 in other local businesses, putting it into local wage packets, who respend it again, and the process keeps repeating. Eventually that £1 breaks down and leaks out into the regional, then the national, then the international economy. Buying your paper at WH Smith sends 95p straight to WHS PLC in London. 5p is retained locally via wages of and the government in London takes 2p back in taxes leaving. 3p of your £1 locally. Buying an online subscription to the Yorkshire Post (as fine an organ as it is) sends £1 to Johnston Press PLC in London, who send back 5p for local staff before HMG takes 2p back in taxes. 3p of your £1 stays in the local economy. That's why people are kidded into believing that London is "the engine room of the UK economy" when the reality is that it is sucking local money out of local people's pocket and handing back a few buttons. The New Economic Foundation did some excellent work on this a few years ago and even went as far as producing tools that can be used by business and the public sector buyers to focus that respend into the local economy. It's definitely not nationalism though, it's just good sense. Here endeth the lesson
  8. Cheap is one option of many. If Zim' farmers can get the onions that consumers like to Immingham for less money than Spanish farmers, the consumer wins. Cheap comes from choice and choice is for the consumer to decide, not the producer or their minders. This oversimplified point seems a bit too obvious, but there we have it.
  9. 1. I was referring to you and I understanding enough to make a value judgement, not Tesco's buyers. 2. Not at all. Complex goods are a little different but it's a reasonable thing to make available to the end consumer. Engine made in Dagenham, bodywork from Poland, assembled in Spain. After all, these days "Japanese" cars are made in Sunderland and Derby while "English" Range Rovers are build in Latvia (ISTR) and consumers decide accordingly. Onions are more straightforward and it's only extending the Red Tractor scheme beyond the goods that aren't UK produce. Just let the consumer decide if it important to them. Why wouldn't you?
  10. Track it here: https://phe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076&fbclid=IwAR2UiMacPCAJVQmkQwbxn2peW6cBnZg5ilBNKHhr70HJbw8H8xwV0VWaUi0 Between 25 September and 1st October the university's Endcliffe Student Village has exploded (251 cases), followed by Broomhall (118), Sharrow (54), Devonshire Quarter (54), Highfield (66). Fulwood & Lodge Moor (no students to speak of, but plenty of uni staff live there) had zero cases the week before, then it jumped to 15.
  11. We'd have to understand the real cost of onion production inside / outside the protectionist environment of the EU before we can make any value judgement. On a slightly related note, one thing I'd be very supportive of would be a new UK law requiring goods to be marked with a country of origin %. A better informed consumer would be able to make their own value judgements about what's important to them apart from price.
  12. Why should it indeed. You have a very good point and well made at that. Competition is very healthy, as Spanish onion growers (et al) will find out when many of the UK's worldwide tariffs are reduced down to zero from the current puniative rate for imports outside the EU. (10% for onions ISTR) . I hear that Zimbabwe is sorting out it's farm situation, so it might be African onions served with your Brazilian beef (currently 13% ?).
  13. For sure. From what little I've read about the RR situation it looks like the government bailout has been averted so that's positive. They, along with P&W, develop, make and maintain most of the world's jet engines and even if aviation contracts the likelihood of either firm disappearing is negligible. RRs small nuclear plants always seems to be on the cusp of making waves. Perhaps the Covid situation will energise that sector.
  14. That's not what you said though. The rights issue / cash raising will provide the cash to secure the balance sheet which means that the business is not in "major financial trouble". If you're a savvy investor it might be a good time to grab a bargain if you think that RR will still be around in a couple of years, which looks more than likely.
  15. Here's an example of state aid that HMG might think a worthwhile investment. In this instance the UK should be able to decide if it wants to commit funds to a project. If the EU has a veto on UK internal policy it could simply refuse permission to the UK while making special state aid exemption rules for its own competing interests. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/10/04/uks-gigafactory-dream-could-fall-without-change-state-aid-rules/
  16. Yes. And? Why is this supposed to be a surprise? Talking of surprises, @melthebell Mel, it's not a surprise. You don't have a point. All, can we raise this discussion up a notch or two please? It's well down in the weeds at the moment and I am really bored of people trying to prove whether or not I know something (that they just found on Google) instead of discussing matters of substance with an understanding that others might have a point that's valid even if we don't agree. That might, just might, even include acknowledging that there are plus and minus points and everything is subject to nuance and change. This low-grade 6th form debating room gotcha crud is why I usually stay away from SF these days. It's dull, irritating, unfulfilling and ultimately pointless. Cheers.
  17. @andyofborgRegulatory divergence is paperwork between trusting nations, not a border. Please don't fall for the nonsense of invoking the GFA. The bottom line doesn't change and I described it above. There will be no border worthy of the name. Is that it? I thought I'd missed something.
  18. Please point this sucker in the direction of the backsliding. I try to keep up to date with Frost & Co but I missed this sovereignty backsliding you mention. Cheers Mel.
  19. The UK certainly isn't putting up any borders. Let's be serious for a moment though, neither is Ireland or the EU. It's not happening. All this talk of borders and invoking the GFA and terrorists is a pretty shoddy negotiating rouse by the EU. They don't believe it, our negotiators don't believe it, but it makes headlines and frightens people so they create public confusion during the process that's designed to put pressure on the Team UK. A few daft people have been so bamboozled by the EU that they even think that the UK should divide itself up internally to avoid a soft border with an external trade bloc. I mean, how mad is that!!!
  20. Thanks for asking a good question TFH. I think it's going terribly. In fact I'm hopping mad about the lack of Parliamentary scrutiny and oversight as well as having no opposition party worthy of the name. The clock is ticking down on the current No 10 incumbents. The thing is though, we know it, we can see them and we can get rid of them if we decide we don't like them. So on the whole I'm pretty happy with the long term democratic prospects outside the EU. They are infinitely better than being a member.
  21. I'd say that's a one dimensional view. The economics aspect is important but so are the societal aspects. The economic aspects are as yet unproven and I expect that in a few years time we'll all look back and think "was that all?" Time will tell. On society, that's already won by a large margin so long as there is no backsliding on sovereignty, ie that the EU has no oversight or legal jurisdiction over the UK and it's people. UK democracy, such as can be is, is enhanced and protected. Again, time will tell but we will know by year end. The "winning strategy" as you call it, was for the UK to leave European Union. That's done. Won. Over. - subject to backsliding in an FTA.
  22. Thanks to my opening post on this thread I couldn't possibly disagree with you
  23. Wrong about what exactly? Right there you seem to have made a huge bunch of assumptions about what I think about a whole bunch of things - at a guess that I'm a stupid / thick / racist / nationalist / uneducated / etc Brexiteer. Maybe you're just wrong. Maybe I understand much more than you and you've got a dose of Dunning Kruger? You can't possibly say, but we do know that you're so down about it that you're talking about your "exit strategy" like a beaten wife planning her suicide. I'm not being personal here - it's your assertion a few posts up and presumably you posted it to be discussed. That's not a rational way to discuss a geopolitical change though. Sure Brexit will alter how universities are funded and that might mean your career path would be different in different circumstances, but none of us should be so freaked out by personal change to think that extends to an entire nation state in a world setting. Yea, a few things are going to be different. Some better, some worse. BUT, and I don't need to tell you this, difference is where innovation comes from. Somebody with your background should surely welcome the opportunity for innovation at the mere expense of ridding the UK of the dead hand of EU protectionism politics. Perhaps you have some specific example I don't know about that you might change my mind with. I'm always open to new ideas so feel free if you like.
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