donkey Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Oh I saw your kind on Scarborough beach this morning eyeing up the donkeys with an unhealthy fascination... Or (like me), is that not what you meant Well there are ones that go 'hee haw' and others that go 'paarrp' but. having put it like that, none of them now seem attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 No one has to read the bible I had religion forced down my throat at school. Perhaps you agree that all schools should be secular and religious schools abolished? Why do atheists concern themselves so much about these matters. If bibles and commandments are irrelevent to their existence then just dont bother about it As long as the Church has favoured status in our society, it will concern those who aren't religious. Why is the Church of England given state recognition? Is there a similarly empowered council of atheists? Why are religious organizations exempt from tax? Is there a similar proviso for non-believers? Remember when Cherie Blair handed down a lenient sentence to a man just because he was religious? (link) These kinds of sleights and church biased favoritism permeate our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I had religion forced down my throat at school. Perhaps you agree that all schools should be secular and religious schools abolished? As long as the Church has favoured status in our society, it will concern those who aren't religious. Why is the Church of England given state recognition? Is there a similarly empowered council of atheists? Why are religious organizations exempt from tax? Is there a similar proviso for non-believers? Remember when Cherie Blair handed down a lenient sentence to a man just because he was religious? (link) These kinds of sleights and church biased favoritism permeate our society. Blame the government then. They have the power to make changes to the constitution. You cant blame the church for not wanting to change the status quo. It's up to the politicians you elect. Organize and lobby for change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Blame the government then. They have the power to make changes to the constitution. You cant blame the church for not wanting to change the status quo. It's up to the politicians you elect. Organize and lobby for change But when we do that people like you are just go around calling us 'extremist atheists' and saying that we're just as bad as the religious or something equally retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien52 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Even the one about coveting your neighbour's ox? Or ass or manservent ! Edited April 25, 2011 by sibon quotes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 This thread was started by a theist who clearly thinks that we humans don't have a right to change the commandments in the the bible. If people like him did not exist then there would be no need for us to concern ourselves with the 10 commandments. You've already stated that the ten commandments are a crap set of rules. Fair enough. Let's see you write up a revised set of commandments that you consider far more relevent to todays world. "Rules for a humanitarion existence" might be a good title. There now I've made a start and will leave you to carry on with the rest. I'm off to the golf course. Looking forward to seeing your work later this PM jimmy : thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkey Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Blame the government then. They have the power to make changes to the constitution. You cant blame the church for not wanting to change the status quo. It's up to the politicians you elect. Organize and lobby for change Your original question was as to why some atheists are concerned about religion. Now you seem to be saying that they should be more than concerned and take political action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Your original question was as to why some atheists are concerned about religion. Now you seem to be saying that they should be more than concerned and take political action. Bizarre isn't it, it's almost as if the reason didn't really matter and he just likes to attack atheism. Of course that's definitely not it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 No one has to read the bible and no one has to follow the ten commandments. Why do atheists concern themselves so much about these matters. If bibles and commandments are irrelevent to their existence then just dont bother about it I was brought up religious, I am now an atheist. I had to read the babble. Let's see you write up a revised set of commandments that you consider far more relevent to todays world. Have you not read the thread? He already did:rolleyes:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthlogic Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 These commandments are completely worthless. These ones sound good in principle but in practise are an intolerable curtail of our freedoms. these ones are good, but they were already around in the code of hammurabi, we don't need god or moses in order to have them. So looking after your folk is curtailing your freedoms ? Sounds like you are fully backing the code of Hammurabi ? Is that the case jimmy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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