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Spot on my man!!!!! Brown is a hater of the English. Take no notice of Albert's postings. He sees the world of Labour politics through rose tinted spectacles. I suspect he thinks that the council elections went according to party's grand plan and were designed to get the opposition to drop their guard. Brilliant tactician is our Gordy.

As did his knighthood:hihi::hihi:

I feel good. I knew that I would. appologies to James brown

Make sure you insist that they don't put their advert on it. The bast***s have a habit of printing "Bloggs and co concrete drive specialits right across your drive entrance. Far better to sort it out first than take a bloke to hospital with a shovel up his a**e

Current CAMRA Pub of the Month.

I suspect the park issue had a much larger influence on voting patterns in the Valley and in Greenhill where a replacement depot was likely to be sited. Of course some councillors did not see which side their bread was buttered and are now ex councillors as a result. Happy retirement

Would you like a rethink on that one Albert? If you don't want to blame Gordon Brown perhaps someone will start a thread, "IS JAN WILSON FINISHED AS LABOUR LEADER IN SHEFFIELD?"

Complaints about Labour candidate Javied Khan, who denies knowingly using his taxi to carry a person collecting postal votes, have been passed to a detective with responsibility for the election process.

Looks like the country's voters agree with you.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Bearing in mind that Scottish MSPs gleefully voiced their support for every team opposing England in the World Cup. Is it any wonder the English don't find the idea of a Scottish PM too appealing. They have not forgotten Culloden, and Brown's ambition was to gain revenge through taxation.

Someone will indoubtably ask the question

It's not that bad - Someone else is worse off due to Gordon

I have an interesting question for redrobbo that he can answer without compromising his ability to vote on this matter. The Charity Commission ruled that should this come to a vote by the trustees, then party whips could not be employed. This is to ensure that trustees act in the interest of the charity they represent and not the interests of some political party. So... should the matter of a hospice in the park come to a vote would robbo ignore his party line and make a decision based on what was best for the Graves Park Charity?

Don't be fooled by politicians on the run up to an election. They will say what they think the audience want to hear. Read the thread to get their real views. Don't let them get your vote by dropping your guard.

Yes.. but they then intend to launch a sofa tax?

Every one of these things is another nail in the coffin of our pubs. Never understood why.. 1 pubs could not have an outside room where smokers could go provided that the main pub was smoke free. 2 the duty increases in the budget only applied to canned and bottled drinks.

A good start is an old "Teasmaid". Worked wonders when we were students.

Years ago I worked in the centre of town. Rather than pay for a multi storey car park I just left my car in the car park at Texas DIY. I left it with half a dozen of their carrier bags stuffed with various boxes on the back seat in full view. Got away with it for 12 months before they caught on and clamped me. By that time I had saved the clamping fee 10 times over. I suppose I could have nipped into the store and bought a few Rawlplugs and then jumped up and down in outrage. But...

Ay! They'll be wantin' vote next.

And when their brains are destroyed they will introduce on line voting to keep the staus quo. Oh bu**** they already have. Things must be further advanced than I thought

I note that talk of an ammendement to the abolition of the 10p rate of tax was a little premature. It appears that no measures at all have been put in place. The agreement was merely a vehicle to delay any debate until after the council elections. I suspect that after May 1st is conveniently out of the way any ammendement will be thrown out with the bath water. Prepare to be sold down the river.

I note that talk of an ammendement to the abolition of the 10p rate of tax was a little premature. It appears that no measures at all have been put in place. The agreement was merely a vehicle to delay any debate until after the council elections. I suspect that after May 1st is conveniently out of the way any ammendement will be thrown out with the bath water. Prepare to be sold down the river.

The big problem re postal votes is no one knows who is doing the voting. You get households where someone simply takes everones ballot paper and fills them in. You get cases where pressure and intimidation is used to collect ballot papers from whole communities and fill them in against the wishes of the registered voter. There are cases where postal votes are applied for for people who simply don't exist or people who live in foreign lands. This is just a selection of the practices. I am sure there are far more than that.

Another quote...Guardian on run up to General Election Police forces throughout Britain will be warned to be on the alert for widespread electoral fraud in the run-up to the general election. With several cases of alleged vote-rigging and fraud under investigation and fears that many more are going undetected, the Electoral Commission is pressing senior police officers to take the issue seriously. The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) is writing guidelines, with the help of the commission, to send to every force and returning officer in the country amid concerns that many local forces do not have the expertise to detect organised vote-rigging. Kate Sullivan, head of electoral administration at the commission, said: "If you go into a police station and say 'Someone has stolen my car', they know what to do. If you say 'Someone has stolen my vote' they don't know what to do." The commission is calling for a database of vote-rigging cases to be set up on the police national computer to give a clearer picture of the scale of the problem. The national guidelines for police forces are being drawn up from a protocol written by Greater Manchester police, who have built up expertise in investigating electoral fraud. Stephen Thomas, assistant chief constable, said: "It is the security of postal votes particularly which needs to be protected. So if you get 20 people applying for postal votes at a three-bedroom terrace house you realise that something is going on." Mr Thomas said proving electoral fraud was notoriously difficult. He warned that during the general election, expected in May, several different types of postal ballot forms would be available, something which could create confusion and further undermine their security. The government says there are very few prosecutions for electoral fraud, but the Guardian has established that criminal inquiries are under way in Reading, Cheshire, Derbyshire, Lancashire, Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire into allegations of theft of ballot papers, forged votes and personation, which involves filling in ballots in the absence of the voter. Many inquiries involve allegations of organised vote-rigging on a huge scale during last June's local elections in ar eas where the government piloted all-postal ballots. Other cases involve traditional ballot box elections. In Birmingham two trials which begin next month will challenge the integrity of the postal voting system - something which Labour has been keen to expand in the belief that it increases turnout. Critics argue that the increase in postal voting is undermining confidence in the electoral system because it makes fraud easier. The electoral commissioner sitting at Birmingham high court will hear evidence of organised electoral fraud in the Aston and Bordesley Green wards. Across the city, postal voting soared from 24,000 in 2002 to 70,000. But the petitioners, who are calling for the results to be overturned, say they have evidence of mass applications for postal votes, intimidation of householders to vote one way, and ballot theft. In the Aston ward - where Labour beat the Liberal Democrats - a handwriting expert is expected to give evidence that hundreds of postal ballots were filled in by one person. In Bordesley Green allegations include claims that attempts were made to bribe a postman to hand over postal ballot forms. Lord Rennard, chief execu tive of the Liberal Democrats, said: "The growth of postal voting is undermining confidence in the voting system." Elsewhere, papers have been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service on the case of Patrick Tyrrell, a Labour councillor in Halton, Cheshire, and his daughter, arrested last year on suspicion of electoral fraud. In Lancashire a trial begins next month relating to the 2002 local elections involving allegations that postal votes were forged. Police are also investigating the surge of postal proxy votes in Burnley in last June's local and Euro elections. Greater Manchester police have sent a file to the CPS after arresting three men in Oldham on suspicion of theft of ballot papers and conspiracy to defraud.

This is in complete contrast to the Labour position which seems to be to explore every avenue to circumvent covenants on the land they are trusted to protect.