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I would think that very FEW if ANY people LOVE such measures and I sincerely hope that our government see no reason with the information available to them to follow suit.

I refer to your reading of the whole sequence of events around the world from the first mention of Corona Virus which now seems to have consigned the devastating effects to history.

I think you have made your points in duplicate triplicate,in bold and multicoloured,but have yet to resort to TRUE. Am I anti vaccine.Obviously not. Do I agree with every action taken by the government.No. Do I see why some of these decisions were taken at a certain point in time on the information available then. Yes. Do I believe that you knew with absolute certainty that Omnicron was of no consequence within a week.Absolutely not. Do you have access to the numerous factors which still moderate the actions currently being introduced by France ,Holland ,Germany etc. No. Do our have a crystal ball.No Do you have a selective memory .Yes Am I irrationally fearful ,cowardly etc. HaHa. So you like to present yourself as the fount of all knowledge,and you can howl at the moon as long as you like and it won’t make a blind bit of difference to those governments who have little option than to move step by step. Another pet hate of mine. Generalisations.

https://abc7.com/donald-trump-covid-booster-shot-dallas/11361974/ Even the Donald is trying to do the right thing

I think that someone who never apologises even for a simple case of mistaken identity takes the prize for arrogance. Are you sure that they are childless. Is that relevant?

No he is not the leader. Their current policies are not dissimilar to our own. Why? Because it easy to sit on the sideline telling everyone what they are doing wrong,but a lot more difficult sitting in the hot seat. Consequently caution is the watchword for all countries.Some more so than others.

I think you will find it was Hackey .Apologise at your leisure

I don’t think that I did

I will use your tactic. Which European leaders do you think have done a good job I don’t think so .

Very sad that anyone in their 40 s dies. I can think of a number of friends and colleagues ranging from early 30s to late 40s who died from a heart problem which had never previously been diagnosed, All well before this epidemic.Im sure that I am not alone in this.

1)Please identify the certain sources. 2) Heart attacks,Diabetes and other afflictions are regularlyreported as being on the increase and have been for years.Very largely due to diet and exercise.Other causes of death have declined due to vaccines and medical advances. 3)Booster uptake has been exceptionally good and continued over Christmas and will carry on in to the next year. Most people were delighted that efficient vaccines were rolled out so quickly and had them as soon as they qualified. The additional publicity is what seems like a vain attempt to get to the unenlightened few,so yes it might as well be discontinued.

A week after Omnicron was identified you had assessed its potential. I don’t know what job you do but you are wasted

A lot more relevant than someone who scours the net to find deaths in support of an argument regarding the dangers of vaccines,including those who may or may not have been vaccinated and without knowing the cause of death. Your ability to decry all news from certain sources whilst lapping up tittle tattle from others is astounding.

I am sure that in your complex world that that is a believable and rational thought. In my more simple analysis if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck it’s a 🦆.

I think a lot of people would echo your sentiments as things appear to be panning out. That is not to deny that only the passage of time gives some further and much needed clarity and no government will lift all restrictions at a stroke as some would wish.

Correct Who knows? But politicians have to live with their decisions whereas we can just have an opinion.

And get vaccinated

Your reference to Italy is one of those tropes. You like a bit of history so check out The Roman Empire. Sweden initially went a certain way which was then adapted to include similar measures to other European countries.Once again they reacted to an ever changing situation which you fail not recognise. You were well ahead of the game then unlike scientists and the medical profession. A polymath version of Mother Shipton.

Once again that unswerving certainty. 1)Covid is nothing special? You choose to consign something to history that is barely 2 years old or in some instances only weeks. I have said before that you have the benefit of hindsight in some respects,but repeatedly claim such foresight.From square one no responsible government would have dismissed the pandemic as an inconsequential issue and you would not have been able to either if in any responsible position. Please don’t go back over what you said and when,because Johnson could do the same and I would have issues with some of his timings and actions as well.

I think this much is true.Well the first part of your statement anyway. I can dismiss the more ridiculous and unlikely scenarios from the extreme ends of the spectrum but totally discount those who claim to have some inner certainty that there has been a consistent overreaction by governments around the world. The vaccine remains advisory and supported by an overwhelming majority. Mask wearing is acceptable to the majority in defined public areas and is little different to stipulated dress codes in some circumstances. To ignore the first wave of infections and it’s effects in Italy then the rest of Europe and writes off history at a record speed. The news of this is now dismissed by some as a plot by governments and the MSM to subjugate their populations. This seems to be a popular theme of those who lack the ability to separate actual reporting of news from the biases of comment . Given this mind set they then seek the truth from other sources which are frequently demonstrably unhinged. The treatment of Covid patients and the vaccine programme has enabled much progress and I hope that this is maintained into 2022 to the benefit of everyone.

There is no need for you to add any of your meat to the bone. Anyone can tot up the tens of millions of vaccines administered throughout the world each week and compare them with the “spike” 😁 of heart attacks or premature deaths that you see as significant.

None at all Hackey. It’s obviously playtime for The Bricky who has no intention of ever posting anything of consequence or sense. It makes you wonder what mischief he might get up to on other forums

Plus that there has been great advances in methods of treatment,medications and of course vaccines

Best wishes to all. A special thought for Tops as he has given up his Christmas to volunteer at the vaccine centre,The Daddy delivering gifts and words of wisdom to his Oldies,and the Bricky watching Christmas re runs of life on the building site. Only kidding. Enjoy the holiday and may your best hopes be realised in the coming year.

He’s only having a lighthearted joke.