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How Many Passed The 11 Plus?


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4 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

 It is/was the number of places available in local Grammar School that governed whether somebody got a place.

 New industrial areas had fewer grammar schools per head  with the exception of places with high Catholic(old or new) population like Liverpool..

  Rural places, particularly historic wealthy counties like Lincolnshire and Yorkshire had many more places.

Sheffield was one of the most difficult places in the country to get a place in Grammar school and if similar exams were taken a pupil would need  a higher score here than than most places in England.

   Even with a high score children would lose their places to those to those with parents serving abroad as civil servants, military and in religious orders. They would also lose their place to those getting a scholarships and recommendations which had nothing to do with ability. It was enough for the local Bishop/MP/Lord etc to say  that the father to be of good character. 

   Very often grades and not marks were given, and no appeals allowed to hide the vagaries and inequalities in the system.

Thank you for that explanation, I wonder how many parents knew that at the time?

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I passed mine in 1970. We were living near Middlesbrough at the time and I went to Eston grammar school. There were a few of us from the same class in the juniors who passed the exam.

I spent a year there before moving to Sheffield through my dad's job.

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2 hours ago, YorkieontheTyne said:

Yep. Greenhill Junior school. As far as I can recall it was in the last year of said exam, 1968. Only qualification I’ve ever earned. Did me no good in the long term. Went to Rowlinson which has to rate as the biggest mistake I’ve ever made. Left there in 1973 with nowt to show for it. 
Am retired now having never been out of work.

I was in the year below you but we couldn't leave until 1975.

I remember your last day and Wombat laughing his head off.

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How many people have I met who failed it but went on to be a big fish in the small pond they stayed in, setting them up for success. Meanwhile those who passed ended up being small fish in the big pond they graduated into, setting themselves up for failure.

 

Unintentional consequences, glad it all got scrapped.

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1 hour ago, YorkieontheTyne said:

Same here abbeyedges. Started at Rowlinson Technical, all boys. Then it became a mixed comprehensive school later. 

Don’t know if you saw my reply to another post in another subject, but I too worked in the S&E dairy on Archer Road .1974, but not for long.

 

1 hour ago, Rockers rule said:

might have just missed you, probably  late 74 early 75 when I started, did 3 years in the bottling plant and 7 years on the rounds. 

Early starts and early finishes :thumbsup:

There sure were some characters worked there :lol:.

Small world! I had a summer job there in 1960 and was also in the bottling section.

The year after I moved along Archer Road to Laycocks Engineering for a summer job in the stores. That was between leaving school and starting college.

Used to cycle from Gleadless via Hemsworth Road, Cobnar Road and Fraser Road to get there. It was hard work on the journey home!

Eventually taught woodwork, metalwork, engineering, tech drawing (or CDT as it became known) and maths.

 

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Just now, echo beach said:

 

Small world! I had a summer job there in 1960 and was also in the bottling section.

The year after I moved along Archer Road to Laycocks Engineering for a summer job in the stores. That was between leaving school and starting college.

Used to cycle from Gleadless via Hemsworth Road, Cobnar Road and Fraser Road to get there. It was hard work on the journey home!

Eventually taught woodwork, metalwork, engineering, tech drawing (or CDT as it became known) and maths.

 

echo.

Hello Echo, Father in law worked there on the rounds from just after the war till he retired.

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I passed in 1958 as did the other 49 pupils in class 4A  at Carfield Juniors. I don't remember being coached to pass the exams; I do remember being panic-stricken when I saw the questions on the aptitude paper as I had never seen anything like them before.

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1 minute ago, Rockers rule said:

Hello Echo, Father in law worked there on the rounds from just after the war till he retired.

Yes Rockers my Dad did too in the accounts department. I’m not sure when he started but he was injured as a child and wasn’t accepted into the forces at the outbreak of war in 1939 because of his disability and so worked there in that period 39-45.

I suppose milk and food supplies were considered to be essential for the population at that time.

 

echo.

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2 minutes ago, echo beach said:

Yes Rockers my Dad did too in the accounts department. I’m not sure when he started but he was injured as a child and wasn’t accepted into the forces at the outbreak of war in 1939 because of his disability and so worked there in that period 39-45.

I suppose milk and food supplies were considered to be essential for the population at that time.

 

echo.

Father in law worked there when they delivered milk  by wagon and horses.

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10 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

Father in law worked there when they delivered milk  by wagon and horses.

Yep. My Dad started there before the second war with a hoss and cart. Came back after Dunkirk badly injured, but then after convalescence returned to the dairy where he worked until he dropped, heart attack on the round at 6:30 on a Sunday morning.  
Struggled on for a few more years as retired ill health, died before official retirement. I’m now living my retirement to the full for him.

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