stylefree   14 #3517 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Al Bundy said: I am no expert on the prison system so excuse my ignorance but as far as I am aware prisoners are unable to  Drive cars. Go shopping. Go to restaurants. Hang out at the beach. Meet friends. Work and get paid. Shop online.  Basically do what those that are NOT in prison do  Oh, and I don't think as a prisoner you can import missiles and rockets to fire off at innocent people.  Unless I am mistaken? perhaps if you could be bothered to read  this book , it would give you the understanding , background and history leading upto oct 7th. (which i do condemn as well as the genocide being carried out by the IDF) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder   1,946 #3518 Posted December 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hecate said: Get your 'well, actually...' or your 'yes, but...' hats on, because here's another one for our 'pics or it didn't happen' lads: Whatever your view of the Israel-Hamas war, rape is rape. To trivialise it is to diminish ourselves   Rape as a war crime didn't happen this time, though, did it? These survivors' testimony is dubious, isn't it? Pics or it didn't happen.  Your concerns and those of the UN are of course valid. Most people accept that rape is one of the war crimes which takes place in every war. We all know that atrocities are committed in every war and probably did since the dawn of what we laughingly call "civilisation". I haven't heard anyone say that it "hasn't happened" but, as with any crime, you need proof of the kind which will stand in a court of law. Yes indeed, rape should be stopped, as should the murder of innocent civilians including children and babies. It's easier said than done though and, the simple answer is to stop all wars. Until we make the UN a body which cannot be ignored, this is not going to happen. Citizens of every country are quite happy to see their own countries breaking International Law and to go along with it without complaint. When wars are stopped, rape as a war crime will also stop. Until then unfortunately, I can't see an answer to what we can do about it.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Al Bundy   1,577 #3519 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, stylefree said: perhaps if you could be bothered to read  this book , it would give you the understanding , background and history leading upto oct 7th. (which i do condemn as well as the genocide being carried out by the IDF) But it's nothing like a prison though is it. Edited December 1, 2023 by Al Bundy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #3520 Posted December 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, trastrick said: There are 49 Muslim majority countries in the World. They are in Africa, Asia, the Middle East, and S. America .There are some 1.8 billion Muslim followers.  With a few exceptions they are authoritarian, religious, economic basket cases,  Of these, 31 are at currently at war, or engaged in civil wars.among their own people. Israel is not their biggest problem, it's the Great Satan Decadent West, and the huge numbers of refugees seeking to escape from the religious authoritarians.  Their failure to build prosperous democratic nations, and their blame of others for their own predicaments, results in their youth with no work, other than military, and a permanent resentment towards those, they are taught to blame, and hate, despite the $billions the West sends them in humanitarian aid.  It is not hard to recruit terrorists under these circumstances.       You're not allowed to use facts.....only feelings  Racist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Al Bundy   1,577 #3521 Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack Grey said: You're not allowed to use facts.....only feelings  Racist Now now Jack, get with the cool kids.  "FAR RIGHT RACIST"!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder   1,946 #3522 Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, stylefree said: perhaps if you could be bothered to read  this book , it would give you the understanding , background and history leading upto oct 7th. (which i do condemn as well as the genocide being carried out by the IDF) You will never persuade closed minds such as Bundy's and Grey's to read something which may disprove all their long argued uneducated beliefs. They claim that they are so sure of their ground but, deep down, it's because they know they're wrong that they won't read it. They will always blame the source as an excuse but we know full well that, had the Pope wrote a book, or made a You tube video, they would still ignore it rather than admit they are wrong. The rest of the world knows anyway, and even countries like China openly speak out on behalf of Palestine.  The west is making itself more irrelevant every year due to it's own illegal actions..  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #3523 Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, Organgrinder said: You will never persuade closed minds such as Bundy's and Grey's to read something which may disprove all their long argued uneducated beliefs. They claim that they are so sure of their ground but, deep down, it's because they know they're wrong that they won't read it. They will always blame the source as an excuse but we know full well that, had the Pope wrote a book, or made a You tube video, they would still ignore it rather than admit they are wrong. The rest of the world knows anyway, and even countries like China openly speak out on behalf of Palestine.  The west is making itself more irrelevant every year due to it's own illegal actions..  I support Israel because I would do exactly the same  If someone pushes me I push back  If a maniac has a knife I don't try to hug them  The Israelis are gonna take Gaza and never give it up ever again.  And who could blame them  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB Â Â 688 #3524 Posted December 1, 2023 @trastrick I am asking you to explain your theory which to my mind is both ill informed and ridiculous. Why suggest that I ask someone else when you are always keen to state your views. Its not weak to admit when you are wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Al Bundy   1,577 #3525 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: You will never persuade closed minds such as Bundy's and Grey's to read something which may disprove all their long argued uneducated beliefs. They claim that they are so sure of their ground but, deep down, it's because they know they're wrong that they won't read it. They will always blame the source as an excuse but we know full well that, had the Pope wrote a book, or made a You tube video, they would still ignore it rather than admit they are wrong. The rest of the world knows anyway, and even countries like China openly speak out on behalf of Palestine.  The west is making itself more irrelevant every year due to it's own illegal actions..  Oh no!!! That's me told then.  In that case, expect me in London this weekend wrapped in a green, black, white and red curtain.  Will you be there to offer me some mealworm? Edited December 1, 2023 by Al Bundy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #3526 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Now where did I do that?  🙂  Quit stalling, show us! Who is stalling? Evading? Dodging and B s.....ing As always OG talks more sense in a paragraph than you do in your interminable ramblings. Good on him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Al Bundy   1,577 #3527 Posted December 1, 2023 https://x.com/realJoelFischer/status/1730335027525824537?s=20   Thicker than a castle wall.  Just another brainwashed silly sausage who is jumping on the virtue signalling bandwagon. So embarrassing.  Warning.... Bad language at the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jack Grey   1,602 #3528 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Organgrinder said: They are living in an enemy occupied country which is regarded the world over as like living in a prison. Daft as ever you twerp. You can't cope with one of me, let alone two. Soon starts blubbering about being insulted.  Viagra?  Wouldn't want you having a heart attack or busting your new hip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...