Manchester Airport By Train

[Annie Bynnol]

   The savings of splitting at Grindleford can be much bigger if you but a Greater Manchester Wayfarer on the train after it leaves Grindleford(cannot be bought in Sheffield or at ticket machines). Make sure you get a ticket-find, the guard if you have to.

   It is valid on trams and trains covering an area including Stockport, Airport, Buxton, Macclesfield, Holmes Chapel, Northwich, Warrington, Wigan, Chorley, Daren, Bury*, Rochdale, Greenfield, Oldham*, Ashton, Glossop after 9.30 am Monday to Friday, and at any time on weekends and bank holidays. Extended journeys can be made outside the boundary e.g. Chester, Liverpool etc with a pre bought ticket and Condition 14.3 does apply.

   Cost: £15.20, Child £7.60, ENCTS £10.05  *Metrolink tram- full fare normally payable by non-Manchester ENCTS.

   You will need a valid ticket to/from Grindleford before  you travel.

   First train is at 10:14. Any return train must stops at Grindleford(Condition 14.3 does not apply).

[Bilge]

14 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

   The savings of splitting at Grindleford can be much bigger if you but a Greater Manchester Wayfarer on the train after it leaves Grindleford(cannot be bought in Sheffield or at ticket machines). Make sure you get a ticket-find, the guard if you have to.

   It is valid on trams and trains covering an area including Stockport, Airport, Buxton, Macclesfield, Holmes Chapel, Northwich, Warrington, Wigan, Chorley, Daren, Bury*, Rochdale, Greenfield, Oldham*, Ashton, Glossop after 9.30 am Monday to Friday, and at any time on weekends and bank holidays. Extended journeys can be made outside the boundary e.g. Chester, Liverpool etc with a pre bought ticket and Condition 14.3 does apply.

   Cost: £15.20, Child £7.60, ENCTS £10.05  *Metrolink tram- full fare normally payable by non-Manchester ENCTS.

   You will need a valid ticket to/from Grindleford before  you travel.

   First train is at 10:14. Any return train must stops at Grindleford(Condition 14.3 does not apply).

Thanks Annie.  Unfortunately most travellers could not successfully negotiate that puzzle even if they knew about it. If that ludicrous riddle to put people off train travel is the best we can do in terms of integrated transport between 2 major cities with extremely poor road links then the planet is sadly doomed.

[ukdobby]

Just booked two seats for next Saturday for £14.

[Alextopman]

The last two train journeys I have booked on the Trainline APP have automatically given me the cheaper split ticket option.

[BigAl1]

2 hours ago, Alextopman said:

The last two train journeys I have booked on the Trainline APP have automatically given me the cheaper split ticket option.

Indeed Trainline may do this but East midlands Trains, TPE and Northern which many will use do not

[Alextopman]

50 minutes ago, BigAl1 said:

Indeed Trainline may do this but East midlands Trains, TPE and Northern which many will use do not

Maybe many will change over then.

[BigAl1]

17 minutes ago, Alextopman said:

Maybe many will change over then.

not in their interest is it they get more revenue - this is not a new thing and if they are forced to offer the best fare then they will increase fares elsewhere to compensate

[Alextopman]

Just now, BigAl1 said:

not in their interest is it they get more revenue - this is not a new thing and if they are forced to offer the best fare then they will increase fares elsewhere to compensate

Not a clue what you're on about.

I've read a thread about getting cheaper train tickets and posted on possibility of how to do that.

 

[Annie Bynnol]

1 hour ago, BigAl1 said:

Indeed Trainline may do this but East midlands Trains, TPE and Northern which many will use do not

    All Trainline do is look at the EMR/TPE/Northern websites for you in one go, buy the tickets for you and make their money by charging  a premium for doing so. They have also introduced 'SplitSave' on some route as they were losing business to specialist 'split ticketing' sites.

    All standard train fares between Sheffield and Manchester are set by Northern(including via Stockport). Each operator chooses to allow Railcard discounts , Rovers etc. they can also individually offer restricted 'Advance' type fares. What Trainline does is it looks at the three operators fares and chooses for you what Trainline thinks is best for you. On this route it can also split the journey up, selecting tickets from different companies. Trainline is never cheaper than doing it yourself or going to the station with an itinerary. Trainline profit by charging a premium for the tickets they buy for you that you could have bought from EMR/TPE/Northern yourself. Trainline is less hassle and provides a check incase you have made a mistake and evidence that can be used for delay-repay, re-booking due to cancellation/delay.

    The idea that individual journey advance tickets are cheaper is an illusion based availability and temporary reserving these tickets by Trainline while you are searching and so not visible on other sites.

     A word of caution,if you have a very cheap Trainline ticket it will refer to a specific train and/or will say 'only valid on EMR  (or TPE or Northern) and Connecting services'.  If you train is cancelled you will be restricted to travelling on the next company train. With TPE cancelling more than 30% of their services after you have booked that is a problem as Northern and EMR will charge the full single fare.

    Northern offer the cheapest tickets to Manchester on their website. They rarely appear on Trainline (unless you specify via New Mills Central) because it is a slower service and a different route. The railway ticket office will book you the same ticket(s) at the same price as you found on the web- but they have not got the time to do a complete search.

   Those who want to risk the complexities of proper 'split ticketing' should try websites like https://trainsplit.com/ .    

   The new ticketing system the Government will introduce will end the practicality of most 'split ticketing' with the need to detrain and checkout at the end/beginning of each split.

    

[Chekhov]

On 24/02/2023 at 12:01, HeHasRisen said:

The current Advance price is £12 for that journey. £33.90 is the walk up price (Anytime Day Single), so you arent comparing the same things.

Still a small saving though but not as big as you first thought.

 

I once had call to go to Leicester and it was cheaper to buy a Lincoln to Leicester open return than it was a Sheffield to Leicester one. Going via Sheffield on the Lincoln-Leicester ticket is a permitted route.

 

The entire systen is bonkers. 

Walk up fares are much preferable as they are, by definition, flexible. Like if one's flight is delayed or rescheduled or even cancelled.