The Labour Party - Part 2

[GabrielC 57]

10 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Yep , the Schools , NHS  etc are doing  great . 

An old Tory trick. Under fund Labour areas in hope the locals blame the Labour council for the lack of services. Sunak once transferred money from a poor area to a rich one because he could.

[alchresearch 215]

On 16/03/2024 at 22:16, GabrielC said:

I think you will find Labour are doing just fine in Wales and I am sure the new leader will be satisfactory. Unlike a certain party in Westminster.

Their new leader was a disaster during covid.

He was only on the podium for 30 seconds as leader before playing his race card.  

 

Vaughan Gething’s Covid failures

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/vaughan-gethings-covid-failures/

 

When it was the Tories losing Whatapp messages, they were constantly slated

 

Covid inquiry: Missing messages 'a real embarrassment' - Gething

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68535441

 

£122 million lost from a Welsh NHS trust? No worry, just sweep it under the carpet

 

Betsi Cadwaladr health board: £122m fraud probe launched

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64068921

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On 17/03/2024 at 09:12, GabrielC said:

An old Tory trick. Under fund Labour areas in hope the locals blame the Labour council for the lack of services. 

What, like this?

 

Liverpool council may have squandered up to £100m of public money

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/liverpool-council-may-have-squandered-up-to-100m-public-money

 

Bankrupt Labour-run council spent £38,000 on dying plants for staff wellbeing

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/26/bankrupt-labour-run-council-spent-38000-dying-plants-staff-wellbeing/

 

Birmingham City Council IT system could now cost up to £100m - five times its original budget

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-65701068

[GabrielC 57]

6 hours ago, alchresearch said:

What, like this?

 

Liverpool council may have squandered up to £100m of public money

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/liverpool-council-may-have-squandered-up-to-100m-public-money

 

Bankrupt Labour-run council spent £38,000 on dying plants for staff wellbeing

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/26/bankrupt-labour-run-council-spent-38000-dying-plants-staff-wellbeing/

 

Birmingham City Council IT system could now cost up to £100m - five times its original budget

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-65701068

And no Tory  run council has ever wasted money on anything then? 

[melthebell 864]

3 hours ago, GabrielC said:

And no Tory  run council has ever wasted money on anything then? 

the tory government wasted a few billion on covid fraud for starters

[peak4 282]

I thought this one made interesting reading (I'm not letting Liverpool off the hook for justified criticism, even though I was born there)

Thurrock council facing £200m loss on solar farms sale   Bureau of Investigative Journalism

The solar farms at the centre of the ruinous investments that led to the collapse of Thurrock council will be sold at a loss to the taxpayer of around £200m.

A buyer has agreed to pay approximately £700m for the 53 farms that the council financed through a series of secretive deals before the company that owned them went bust.

Thurrock said the sale will help reduce its debt by “in excess of £500m” and would be the “single biggest contributor” towards its financial recovery.

Thurrock’s effective bankruptcy, declared in December 2022, has already resulted in tax hikes and dire warnings about cuts to local services.

While the exact figures are not yet clear, the loss of public money caused by the investments is likely to be colossal. The amount recouped by the sale of the solar farms is nearly £200m less than the total owed to the Conservative-run council.

A three-year investigation by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ) uncovered evidence that Kavanagh appeared to have cheated the council out of as much as £130m and spent the money on a life of luxury.

Kavanagh convinced Thurrock to hand over the equivalent of almost its entire annual budget while inflating the value of the solar farms it had invested in.

 

If that seems a little far from home, I've now retired to Derbyshire from Crookes

Derbyshire council chief insists £60 million loan money will be repayed in full – despite investigation     Derbyshire Times [spelling is DT's not mine]
A Derbyshire finance chief has said it is an “absolute fabrication” to suggest an under-investigation London council will not repay the £60 million it owes the local authority he works for – but he admitted that “poor decisions may have been made”.

Peter Handford, finance director at Derbyshire County Council, has said he is fully confident that Thurrock Council will repay every penny of the £60 million loaned to it from the authority and the pension fund it oversees. He said £20 million has already been paid on time.

 

Cash-strapped Derbyshire County Council fears Government's funding proposal fails to meet increasing financial pressures    Derbyshire Times again, you should be able to get past registration by hitting the I'll Do It Later button
Financially-troubled Derbyshire council chiefs will continue to lobby for funding despite the Government announcement that provisionally only £64bn will be made available for local authorities nationwide next year – leaving residents facing a possible increase in council tax.

Cllr Spencer added that Cllr Lewis is using his position as financial spokesperson on the CCN to get the message to people that need to hear it that this is a national issue and it’s a ‘tragic’ national issue.

The Conservative-led Derbyshire County Council which originally forecast a £46.4m budget deficit for the current 2023/24 financial year has since worked tirelessly before recently announcing this forecast overspend has now been reduced to a £33m figure following a number of actions taken by the council which is still facing enormous pressure to make further cuts.

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19 hours ago, alchresearch said:

What, like this?

Bankrupt Labour-run council spent £38,000 on dying plants for staff wellbeing

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/26/bankrupt-labour-run-council-spent-38000-dying-plants-staff-wellbeing/

 

 

They had a contract for a company to water the office plants? Health and safety issue? Union rules?

[Axe 836]

Apparently the Labour party intends to remove the VAT exemption for private school fees if they win the next general election.  

 

Labour proposed policies so far are to have a vote on allowing poorly people to die,  crack down on ticket touts and charging vat on private school fees.  

 

So far nothing has persuaded me to vote for them. 

[Organgrinder 1,946]

11 minutes ago, Axe said:

Apparently the Labour party intends to remove the VAT exemption for private school fees if they win the next general election.  

 

Labour proposed policies so far are to have a vote on allowing poorly people to die,  crack down on ticket touts and charging vat on private school fees.  

 

So far nothing has persuaded me to vote for them. 

Not to worry  -  we wouldn't have expected anything different.     They'll make it quite comfortably without your vote anyway.

[Axe 836]

1 hour ago, Organgrinder said:

Not to worry  -  we wouldn't have expected anything different.     They'll make it quite comfortably without your vote anyway.

The Labour party should be pledging policies that will at least make me think about voting for them.  There are millions out there who have not been convinced that the Labour party will make a better alternative government.  

[Organgrinder 1,946]

11 minutes ago, Axe said:

The Labour party should be pledging policies that will at least make me think about voting for them.  There are millions out there who have not been convinced that the Labour party will make a better alternative government.  

In that case,  there are other parties for you to vote for instead.

 

Any Labour leader who let you choose his policies would never get voted into power anyway.

[PRESLEY 1,231]

14 minutes ago, Axe said:

The Labour party should be pledging policies that will at least make me think about voting for them.  There are millions out there who have not been convinced that the Labour party will make a better alternative government.  

After the pathetic mess this Goverment hade, there are millions more who are convinced that Labour will make an alternative and far better Goverment.