The Conservative Party - Part Two.

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56 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Starmer's betrayal of the working class by expelling all the Socialists from Labour was disgraceful, especially Corbyn, a hard working, decent, honest man who could have worked with Starmer to represent a much broader church. There are few enough decent politicians like Corbyn and we can't afford to lose them. 

 

 It sticks in my craw that I will have to vote for Starmer's Labour or risk splitting the vote.

What about Corbyn's betrayal of Centrists who supported Labour from the mid 90s to 2010? 

"Blairites" they called us.

"You're not wanted now we have record members supporting Jeremy" they said.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

 There are few enough decent politicians like Corbyn and we can't afford to lose them. 

1 hour ago, cuttsie said:

MP s are jobs for the boys , they are bused into working class areas at election time they then say what the sheep want to hear and sit back while the goodies roll in .

 

Is being a representative just a job? All sides manipulate the media, otherwise they would not get elected.

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

I agree.

Starmer's betrayal of the working class by expelling all the Socialists from Labour was disgraceful, especially Corbyn, a hard working, decent, honest man who could have worked with Starmer to represent a much broader church. There are few enough decent politicians like Corbyn and we can't afford to lose them. 

 

 It sticks in my craw that I will have to vote for Starmer's Labour or risk splitting the vote.

Keir Starmer stood shoulder to should with the vile terrorist sympathiser Jeremy Corbyn  before the 2019 general election.  Keir Starmer supported Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister of our country but when he replaced him as leader of the Labour party he judged the same man as unfit to be a Labour MP.  Keir Starmer has no credibility. 

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6 minutes ago, Axe said:

Keir Starmer stood shoulder to should with the vile terrorist sympathiser Jeremy Corbyn  before the 2019 general election.  Keir Starmer supported Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister of our country but when he replaced him as leader of the Labour party he judged the same man as unfit to be a Labour MP.  Keir Starmer has no credibility. 

I supporting the disgraced ex Prime Minister Boris Johnson, neither have you.

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51 minutes ago, Mister M said:

I supporting the disgraced ex Prime Minister Boris Johnson, neither have you.

It is irrelevant whether I have credibility or not because I am not a leader of one of the main British political parties.  The fact that Keir Starmer has no credibility and no respect for democracy should be a worry for all decent respectable honest folk.

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5 minutes ago, Axe said:

It is irrelevant whether I have credibility or not because I am not a leader of one of the main British political parties.  The fact that Keir Starmer has no credibility and no respect for democracy should be a worry for all decent respectable honest folk.

Oh well, he has credibility amongst a great deal of the voting population. Much more so than the various freakazoids from the sewage party. 

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1 hour ago, Mister M said:

I supporting the disgraced ex Prime Minister Boris Johnson, neither have you.

Do you agree with what Axe said ?

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Just now, hackey lad said:

Do you agree with what he said ?

No.

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Just now, Mister M said:

No.

Oh well .

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3 hours ago, Anna B said:

I agree.

Starmer's betrayal of the working class by expelling all the Socialists from Labour was disgraceful, especially Corbyn, a hard working, decent, honest man who could have worked with Starmer to represent a much broader church. There are few enough decent politicians like Corbyn and we can't afford to lose them. 

 

 It sticks in my craw that I will have to vote for Starmer's Labour or risk splitting the vote.

Corbyn was well and truly set up  BBC papers  Telegraph the worst  No fees students ;‘ take water electric gas’s  railways out off private owner ship , He would have made  mistakes we know that : But for me he would have been better than Starmer; or Blair  But any port in a storm would be better then  this Complete load off bent rubbish ;

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3 hours ago, Anna B said:

I agree.

Starmer's betrayal of the working class by expelling all the Socialists from Labour was disgraceful, especially Corbyn, a hard working, decent, honest man who could have worked with Starmer to represent a much broader church. There are few enough decent politicians like Corbyn and we can't afford to lose them. 

 

 It sticks in my craw that I will have to vote for Starmer's Labour or risk splitting the vote.

Corbyn supported the campaign to overturn the convictions of Jawad Botmeh and Samar Alami for the 1994 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London which argued that there was insufficient evidence to tie them to the act, along with Amnesty International, Unison and a number of journalists and other MPs. Botmeh and Alami had admitted possessing explosives and guns.

 

Corbyn was arrested with 15 demonstrators protesting against what they saw as weak evidence and poor treatment during the trial of a group of IRA members including Patrick Magee, who was convicted of the Brighton hotel bombing and other attacks.

 

In 2017, Corbyn said that he had "never met the IRA", although Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott later clarified that although he had met members of the IRA, "he met with them in their capacity as activists in Sinn Fein".

 

In 1987, Corbyn attended a commemoration by the Wolfe Tone Society in London for eight IRA members who were killed by Special Air Service soldiers while attacking a Royal Ulster Constabulary police station in Loughgall, County Armagh. 

 

 

Aye, we need more like Red Jezza. Top bloke.

 

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3 hours ago, Mister M said:

The Tories claim to represent the  interests of the working classes as do Reform, Reclaim, UKIP, and well as Labour and the Liberal Democrats.

In the past when Labour have tried to represent sectional interests such as "the working class", they have lost the election. Tories get in and hammered them. 

In my opinion it is more sensible to appeal to a broad section of people. Yes, it might not be as purist as you like, however letting the perfect be the enemy of the good means you get nothing.

And historically, the Labour Party developed and sprang up from a coalition of the working and middle classes. You might not like "Labour luvvies", as you call them but people from the Bloomsbury set etc were instrumental in the inception of the Labour Party.

We need a proper Socialist party .