SomeNextGuy Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Bang on Wilder always looks as though he has lost two bob and found a tanner. Yes, Wilder is clueless. I hope Jos keeps up his sterling work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintor Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Does anyone know have the Millwall fans gone yet? Apparently they stay around for a few days causing mayhem Think they've stayed at home with your missing fans 21,300, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjker Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Bang on Wilder always looks as though he has lost two bob and found a tanner. It will be interesting to see how Jos's record stands up next to Wilders after 108 games at 52% plus win rate, that is if Jos lasts that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Don,t think we are going to keep a clean sheet, and the money is on to win, it,s Owls 2-1 for me . My lift just pulled up so here we go. W.A.W.A.W. Who needs a crystal ball:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsaud Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It will be interesting to see how Jos's record stands up next to Wilders after 108 games at 52% plus win rate, that is if Jos lasts that long. Jos joined the Owls last January. His first match in charge was the Derby. I’ll leave it to you to compare Wilder’s record with Luhukay’s from that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjker Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Jos joined the Owls last January. His first match in charge was the Derby. I’ll leave it to you to compare Wilder’s record with Luhukay’s from that point. Or better still compare their first 29 games at their clubs. Surely a long term analysis is more accurate on the managers capabilities, as I said IF he lasts that long and on his past assignment's it's not likely. Edited August 23, 2018 by jjjker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsaud Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Or better still compare their first 29 games at their clubs. Surely a long term analysis is more accurate on the managers capabilities, as I said IF he lasts that long and on his past assignment's it's not likely. I’m not so sure. Starting the clock on Jan 12th seems fairer to me. Both managers operating in the same division, with the same transfer windows. It is surprisingly close between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjker Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I’m not so sure. Starting the clock on Jan 12th seems fairer to me. Both managers operating in the same division, with the same transfer windows. It is surprisingly close between the two. A bit silly really in my opinion judging a man's achievements over the last 29 games as opposed to his last 108 or so, fact is Wilder has a 52% plus win rate over a much longer period, do you expect Jos to match that given his past managerial record?.He has a lot of improving to do if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsaud Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 A bit silly really in my opinion judging a man's achievements over the last 29 games as opposed to his last 108 or so, fact is Wilder has a 52% plus win rate over a much longer period, do you expect Jos to match that given his past managerial record?.He has a lot of improving to do if so. I wasn’t judging, I was comparing. If you want to compare two things, it is best to compare on a like for like basis. So looking at the second half of last season makes sense in this context. Much more so than comparing performance in two vastly different divisions. Trends are important too. Luhukay’s win ratio is improving at the Owls. Can you say the same for Wilder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjker Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I wasn’t judging, I was comparing. If you want to compare two things, it is best to compare on a like for like basis. So looking at the second half of last season makes sense in this context. Much more so than comparing performance in two vastly different divisions. Trends are important too. Luhukay’s win ratio is improving at the Owls. Can you say the same for Wilder? 2 wins out of two and a 50% win record in the league up to now would suggest Wilders win rate is improving again compared to Jos's 25% in the league, however you haven't said if you think after 108 Jos will have better than 52% anyway don't answer and we'll beg to differ because last week when I gave differing opinions to owls on here I got a few calling my opinions "digs" and was mysteriously banned for a few days. Wilder took a team in turmoil over choose what division it was and did something no other manager of any Sheffield team has managed to do previously then he made a lot of big spending clubs look mediocre at best in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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