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Has it been stated anywhere the actual type of tree (ie Latin name) to be planted in Fitzalan Square?

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Mr Gunton is/was a "tree manager".

Does he have any forestry or arboricultural qualifications?

 

His report did require changes to the design of the redevelopment if the trees in the square were to have been retained.

 

The planning officers recommended that the proposed redevelopment design took precedence and the the use of 12 different trees would balance the removal of the 4 specimens that were not part of the original construction.

 

why would he need to show any qualifications weve got plenty of people on here with no qualifications but are all experts on tree care and planning according to the post in this thread.

 

the issues is Mr Gunton has his views on what could be done but his opinion is looked at in the bigger scheme of the overall redevelopment of the site and it would probably add additional costs so his recommendations were overruled by the planners.

 

---------- Post added 26-05-2018 at 13:06 ----------

 

I post to add facts to a discussion.

Mr Gunton is being put forward as a tree specialist of some kind.

His report is one of a council officer and is not being referenced in totality.

 

I am suggesting that it is possible that he is a career council officer that is holding a post that does not require any qualifications or practical experience of the title in the role.

you have no evidence of that

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What happens then - are they frozen in time or something?

 

Yes that's exactly what happens :loopy: They are going to plant some Giant Redwoods and when they reach ten feet tall , they will freeze them

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Originally Posted by cgksheff

 

Mr Gunton is/was a "tree manager".

Does he have any forestry or arboricultural qualifications?

 

His report did require changes to the design of the redevelopment if the trees in the square were to have been retained.

 

The planning officers recommended that the proposed redevelopment design took precedence and the the use of 12 different trees would balance the removal of the 4 specimens that were not part of the original construction.

 

why would he need to show any qualifications weve got plenty of people on here with no qualifications but are all experts on tree care and planning according to the post in this thread.

 

the issues is Mr Gunton has his views on what could be done but his opinion is looked at in the bigger scheme of the overall redevelopment of the site and it would probably add additional costs so his recommendations were overruled by the planners.

 

---------- Post added 26-05-2018 at 13:06 ----------

 

Quote:

 

Originally Posted by cgksheff

 

I post to add facts to a discussion.

Mr Gunton is being put forward as a tree specialist of some kind.

His report is one of a council officer and is not being referenced in totality.

 

I am suggesting that it is possible that he is a career council officer that is holding a post that does not require any qualifications or practical experience of the title in the role.

 

you have no evidence of that

 

Where is the evidence that he IS qualified? Most reports have an 'about the author's section.

 

 

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Where is the evidence that he IS qualified? Most reports have an 'about the author's section.

 

 

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I'm still waiting to hear which parts of his report are incorrect, and that would cause any justification for questioning his qualifications at all..

 

Did he get the species wrong, the age, the height?

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I'm still waiting to hear which parts of his report are incorrect, and that would cause any justification for questioning his qualifications at all..

 

Did he get the species wrong, the age, the height?

 

I can't see anything factually wrong with his report - just your assertion that in Fitzalan Square we had "large canopied mature trees".

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What happens then - are they frozen in time or something?

 

They are a VERY DIFFERENT type of tree. Are you being disingenuous?

 

---------- Post added 27-05-2018 at 22:28 ----------

 

So by your logic no amount of redevelopment can be undertaken in the city which results in a tree being removed? Even if the trees are replaced in greater numbers (by inferior trees whatever that means).

 

Is that now where you’ve got to?

 

I've no idea how you've made such 'logical' leaps based on the statements I made.

Are you still persisting in the believe that all types of tree are identical? :roll:

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They a VERY DIFFERENT type of tree. Are you being disingenuous?

 

---------- Post added 27-05-2018 at 22:28 ----------

 

 

I've no idea how you've made such 'logical' leaps based on the statements I made.

Are you still persisting in the believe that all types of tree are identical? :roll:

 

What type of tree will be planted?

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They a VERY DIFFERENT type of tree. Are you being disingenuous?

 

Hes doing what he always does , trying to be clever but failing miserably :loopy: Its been said many times on here about the type of tree that will be planted but he seems to ignore it

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The square will look much better - there will be plenty of trees in it which in years to come will mature like the ones they are replacing- 12 of them no less.

 

Whilst I don’t always agree I accept some of the views on street tree removal - however this sort of objection could have potentially held the redevelopment back unnecessarily.

 

 

Which views on street tree removal do you accept?

You have spent months and months (on overtime) arguing the toss on the subject - claiming to have inside knowledge and when challenged cried that you didn't and never claimed that you did - spending a lunch hour I seem to recall looking at the contract, lord knows for whose benefit - and the same heavily redacted one we could all see.

 

Council employee of the year !

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Which views on street tree removal do you accept?

You have spent months and months (on overtime) arguing the toss on the subject - claiming to have inside knowledge and when challenged cried that you didn't and never claimed that you did - spending a lunch hour I seem to recall looking at the contract, lord knows for whose benefit - and the same heavily redacted one we could all see.

 

Council employee of the year !

 

No you made all that up about claiming inside knowledge.

 

I’m just pleased that fitzalan square is going to get sorted out because it’s tired, dark and dingey.

 

4 trees are getting chopped down and they’re going to plant some more to replace them and the whole square will look a lot better.

 

You carry on with your conspiracy theories me old.

 

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Hes doing what he always does , trying to be clever but failing miserably :loopy: Its been said many times on here about the type of tree that will be planted but he seems to ignore it

 

Of course it a different tree - so what? You wouldn’t have given it a seconds thought if they’d done this redevelopment 10 years ago.

 

What do you think about the peace gardens? A good few trees came out when they did that redevelopment- did you put a complaint in at the time?

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What type of tree will be planted?

 

Perhaps you could just read back a few posts. And yes, I'm aware that we don't know the exact species, we do know that the type though, as do you. :roll:

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