White Male privilege

[Halibut 12]

What’s your view on it?

 

I fully support those making the protest. What about you?

[onewheeldave 22]

It’s divisive to call people white supremacists because they have a different view on recruitment policy in the police force.

 

That sort of argument is never going to encourage rational discussion about important subjects.

 

You know that though don’t you? That’s why you just made a generic statement about divisive arguments rather than comment on the fact that someone accused someone else of being a white supremacist.

 

It may be a generalisation, but, like many generalisations, it's a valid one.

 

I was just addressing the fact that, in these discussions, often someone will point out that a particular line of argument is 'divisive', with the implication that it is therefore flawed.

 

This is totally incorrect- an arguments validity rests entirely on it's actual content- the fact that some people really dislike it is utterly irrelevant (to it's validity).

 

It’s divisive to call people white supremacists because they have a different view on recruitment policy in the police force.

 

That sort of argument is never going to encourage rational discussion about important subjects.

 

I don't recall anyone calling "people white supremacists because they have a different view on recruitment policy in the police force."

 

If you quote the post/part of the post where this happened, I'll happily have a look at it.

 

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Indeed.

 

Does it really need another government investigation to prove that the poor are massively disadvantaged and have all sorts of problems?

 

No, it does not, the proof is absolutely overwhelming.

 

But, the way the system preserves the status quo is by continually calling for yet another study, yet another poll, set up yet another investigative bureaucracy, yet another 'debate', to further stall actual action on rectifying the wrong that is already well established and obvious.

 

IMO

[Huffty_500 10]

What's your view on the 'taking a knee' protests in the US?

 

My view? Ok. Everyone seemingly jumping on the bandwagon over what kapernick did. Why did he do it? Well the BLM movement, and the treatment of blacks by the police in the US.

 

So lets look at that shall we? Lets look at who commits the crimes in the US and the types of crime, often violent involving guns, knives etc. Let me provide a link

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZVc-1asSg

 

This brave officer is simply doing his job and look at what happens here. Nobody says nothing because this officer is also black, he is doing the right thing and is shot at with no provocation. Just another example of blacks with a chip on their shoulder causing problems for themselves. BLM only counts when it's black on white never ever black on black, and this clip one of many doesnt make the news.

 

The officers in the US do an incredible job and nobody can put themselves in a situation of pulling somebody over in a country where guns outnumber people. Sure at times they make mistakes and can be heavy handed but they're trying to do a very stressfull and dangerous job.

 

Dont even get me started on history and US history, for 1) it is exactly that history over 200yrs old and for 2) people died for the star spangled banner to give Kapernick and co the right to their god damn free speech. I'm not spending all afternoon writing essays on here, I'll be watching the Talladega 500 later on, NASCAR is just about the only sport where nobody will disrespect the flag so as to try and get in a political cheap shot. People seem to forget who won the US Election.

[ez8004 10]

Quotes being removed anyway on here so there's no point. And puggie is right, tests on IQ and race, speed, everything have been undertaken. The whole white male privilidge thing is just an excuse and a scapegoat to try and use for the shortfallings of some minority groups.

 

Complain all you want. It is about time the field was levelled. The white males of this country need knocking down a peg or two considering the advantage they have historically had which has been preserved through generations.

 

Qualifications and talent should be the determining factor but it never is when you have the right wing leaning, ill informed and uneducated like Puggie make baseless opinions that gender has been proven to be a determining factor in STEM industries due to biological and evolutionary differences.

 

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My view? Ok. Everyone seemingly jumping on the bandwagon over what kapernick did. Why did he do it? Well the BLM movement, and the treatment of blacks by the police in the US.

 

So lets look at that shall we? Lets look at who commits the crimes in the US and the types of crime, often violent involving guns, knives etc. Let me provide a link

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZVc-1asSg

 

This brave officer is simply doing his job and look at what happens here. Nobody says nothing because this officer is also black, he is doing the right thing and is shot at with no provocation. Just another example of blacks with a chip on their shoulder causing problems for themselves. BLM only counts when it's black on white never ever black on black, and this clip one of many doesnt make the news.

 

The officers in the US do an incredible job and nobody can put themselves in a situation of pulling somebody over in a country where guns outnumber people. Sure at times they make mistakes and can be heavy handed but they're trying to do a very stressfull and dangerous job.

 

Dont even get me started on history and US history, for 1) it is exactly that history over 200yrs old and for 2) people died for the star spangled banner to give Kapernick and co the right to their god damn free speech. I'm not spending all afternoon writing essays on here, I'll be watching the Talladega 500 later on, NASCAR is just about the only sport where nobody will disrespect the flag so as to try and get in a political cheap shot. People seem to forget who won the US Election.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/10/utah-nurse-arrested-not-drawing-blood-police-officer-fired

 

Not all police officers are as good as you make them out to be. Far from it.

[Huffty_500 10]

I said at times they make mistakes, he did, read what I wrote. Mistakes happen.

 

Nothing needs leveling. As ive earlier said all my asian mates back home do well. Yeah keep on with the right wing this right wing that. I'll hire a load of nerdy chinese students to man the door because nobody can make any kind of judgement or it might be deemed as racist

Edited October 15, 2017 by Huffty_500

[melthebell 865]

I said at times they make mistakes, he did, read what I wrote. Mistakes happen.

how many mistakes have to happen?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKdH-KWW0AA_uQh.jpg

[Huffty_500 10]

how many mistakes have to happen?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKdH-KWW0AA_uQh.jpg

 

Well I googled the first name.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/philando-castile-trial-verdict/index.html

 

Same story. He had a gun, it was loaded, he reached for it, the officer fired. The officer was CLEARED. Not by me not by you but by a Jury in court on trial. Im not googling every name on your list. Ive been pulled over in the US and the mandatory default position is hands in the air.

 

These sports stars are a joke with their shoulder pads, using their fame for political gain meanwhile the true heros come back in a casket from wars that ensure these people are free to mouth off

[melthebell 865]

These sports stars are a joke with their shoulder pads, using their fame for political gain meanwhile the true heros come back in a casket from wars that ensure these people are free to mouth off

you mean like this?

https://goo.gl/images/VbWQFx

[The Joker 10]

These sports stars are a joke with their shoulder pads, using their fame for political gain meanwhile the true heros come back in a casket from wars that ensure these people are free to mouth off

 

these reality TV stars like the Trumpet are a joke with his fake tan and combover hair, using his infamy for political gain. And don’t forget the Trumpet dodged the military draft FIVE times, because he hurt his ankle.

 

He’s a spineless coward, who acts brave mouthing off behind a twitless account

Edited October 15, 2017 by The Joker

[hackey lad 3,996]

Complain all you want. It is about time the field was levelled. The white males of this country need knocking down a peg or two considering the advantage they have historically had which has been preserved through generations.

 

Qualifications and talent should be the determining factor but it never is when you have the right wing leaning, ill informed and uneducated like Puggie make baseless opinions that gender has been proven to be a determining factor in STEM industries due to biological and evolutionary differences.

 

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/10/utah-nurse-arrested-not-drawing-blood-police-officer-fired

 

Not all police officers are as good as you make them out to be. Far from it.

 

Could you please explain to me , why I as a white male need knocking down a peg or two ?

[Halibut 12]

My view? Ok. Everyone seemingly jumping on the bandwagon over what kapernick did. Why did he do it? Well the BLM movement, and the treatment of blacks by the police in the US.

 

So lets look at that shall we? Lets look at who commits the crimes in the US and the types of crime, often violent involving guns, knives etc. Let me provide a link

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZVc-1asSg

 

This brave officer is simply doing his job and look at what happens here. Nobody says nothing because this officer is also black, he is doing the right thing and is shot at with no provocation. Just another example of blacks with a chip on their shoulder causing problems for themselves. BLM only counts when it's black on white never ever black on black, and this clip one of many doesnt make the news.

 

The officers in the US do an incredible job and nobody can put themselves in a situation of pulling somebody over in a country where guns outnumber people. Sure at times they make mistakes and can be heavy handed but they're trying to do a very stressfull and dangerous job.

 

Dont even get me started on history and US history, for 1) it is exactly that history over 200yrs old and for 2) people died for the star spangled banner to give Kapernick and co the right to their god damn free speech. I'm not spending all afternoon writing essays on here, I'll be watching the Talladega 500 later on, NASCAR is just about the only sport where nobody will disrespect the flag so as to try and get in a political cheap shot. People seem to forget who won the US Election.

 

One video? That's the best you've got to offer?

[the_bloke 17]

Could you please explain to me , why I as a white male need knocking down a peg or two ?

 

No one should be knocked down. For equality to work you should create a level playing field by removing barriers and raising those who are determined to be treated unfairly, not by lowering those who are deemed to have all the cards.