Jpeters Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The only person making any sense on this thread is Obelix. I think some of you should read the story and not just the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 No. A manager said we are aware of this particular condition and there is no need for any more notes from you about it. If the condition worsenes, or changes, or there is a new one, let us know. I would be quite happy for my taxes to pay for someone not to work in the last year of their life, the man in question died after 10 months. Its easy, in hindsight, he should not be forced to work. How long a period before their death would you say is ok for them to be paid sick pay? ---------- Post added 29-12-2016 at 17:16 ---------- The only person making any sense on this thread is Obelix. I think some of you should read the story and not just the headline. How long a period before their death would you say is ok for them to be paid sick pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I would be quite happy for my taxes to pay for someone not to work in the last year of their life, the man in question died after 10 months. Its easy, in hindsight, he should not be forced to work. How long a period before their death would you say is ok for them to be paid sick pay? ---------- Post added 29-12-2016 at 17:16 ---------- How long a period before their death would you say is ok for them to be paid sick pay? To blunt I don't give a ****. This is not the question that was asked. Everyone can say what should be done with hindsight. What you don't realise is how the story is being presented to push the buttons the Mirror wants to push. The fact of his death, tragic how it is, is of no reason to adduce malfeasance on the part of the DWP or the GP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 To blunt I don't give a ****. This is not the question that was asked. Everyone can say what should be done with hindsight. You have a poor attitude to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Ah ad hominem as the final response I see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpeters Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I would be quite happy for my taxes to pay for someone not to work in the last year of their life, the man in question died after 10 months. Its easy, in hindsight, he should not be forced to work. How long a period before their death would you say is ok for them to be paid sick pay? ---------- Post added 29-12-2016 at 17:16 ---------- How long a period before their death would you say is ok for them to be paid sick pay? What has that got to do with the discussion at hand? You prove my point, people should read the link and dicuss the topic at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 In this case the DWP is technically correct. Once they have deemed you fit for work there is no point your GP sending in further sick notes for your ESA claim unless you appeal. There is a point in them issuing further sick notes if you claim JSA while you appeal because you can now have a 3 month "extended period of sickness" on JSA and that makes a big difference because you then don't have to do much job seeking while you wait for your appeal paperwork to come through, at which point you can go back on ESA while you wait for your tribunal (during which time you will need sick notes). While the letter is technically correct I think it's wrong that they don't advise the GP that they can still write a sick note for JSA. This poor man should have appealed, he would probably have won, so many of the Work Capability Assessment decisions are atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 To be fair the story isnt that clear. But, if the DWP could instruct a doctor to say that a patient was fit for work and that was counter to the doctor's opinion that the patient was unfit then that would be a really dangerous precedent. If the DWP could over-ride the medicial opinion of a doctor that a patient was unfit, basically ignoring that expert opinion, then that would also too be very dangerous. If the DWP could do that then why not employers too for example? To be safe the DWP should stay out of medical note issuing proceses and not instruct doctors to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Pitchforks? you lot would burn out someone who failed to sing the red flag sometimes, I'm so damn lucky I don't have to live in that miserable ****hole you all do these days. hows germany treating you then ? btw had a lovely xmas over there pity we didnt meet up for that drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joojoo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 GP's are not fools, they can make their own decisions without being pushed by the DWP. I know, I watch GP's behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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