Robin-H Â Â 11 #13 Posted September 22, 2016 Yeah everyone is just jealous of her. Shut down the debate. Move along. Nothing to see here. Tax avoiders are the salt of the earth etc... etc... Â Find me an article that says she illegally avoided tax. You can't. Â I'm not even sure there are articles that says she legally reduced her tax, what exactly is the story here? She was a director of an offshore company 16 years ago. Big wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #14 Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) That is the point, it is legal. To live and work in this country, but only to declare a certain amount of your income.  I still don't quite get the association of not paying tax and Amber Rudd. No one has accused her of anything of the sort.  Unlike 99.9% of self employed people,who do exactly as you claim (probably). Edited September 22, 2016 by willman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   221 #15 Posted September 22, 2016 I still don't quite get the association of not paying tax and Amber Rudd. No one has accused her of anything of the sort.  Unlike 99.9% of self employed people,who do exactly as you claim (probably).  Perhaps RonJeremy can explain why people get offshore companies, and how that impacts on Government finances? Amber has failed to respond to questions, according to the article, in this country silence is seen as a negative when it comes to the law.  ---------- Post added 22-09-2016 at 13:30 ----------  The files also identify Rudd as a director of Monticello plc, a company that was at the centre of a share ramping investigation after her colleague Mark O’Hanlon made false statements about the company’s prospects.  Shares rocketed but were later suspended, and Ms Rudd resigned as a board member five months later.  Two days later she resigned as director of Advanced Asset Allocation Management.  http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/713093/Home-Secretary-Amber-Rudd-involved-Bahamas-offshore-firms-leaked-data-reveals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #16 Posted September 22, 2016 Perhaps RonJeremy can explain why people get offshore companies, and how that impacts on Government finances? Amber has failed to respond to questions, according to the article, in this country silence is seen as a negative when it comes to the law.  ---------- Post added 22-09-2016 at 13:30 ----------  The files also identify Rudd as a director of Monticello plc, a company that was at the centre of a share ramping investigation after her colleague Mark O’Hanlon made false statements about the company’s prospects.  Shares rocketed but were later suspended, and Ms Rudd resigned as a board member five months later.  Two days later she resigned as director of Advanced Asset Allocation Management.  http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/713093/Home-Secretary-Amber-Rudd-involved-Bahamas-offshore-firms-leaked-data-reveals   I've read it all - it still doesn't say she avoided or used the tax shelters - she was employed as a director of them. It also doesn't say she did anything wrong her business partner did or would you personally like to accuse her of something you have no evidence of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #17 Posted September 22, 2016 Fine. What's the problem. Do those criticising, wake up one morning and say "you know what? I'm going to the tax office to pay some extra tax"? Perhaps they do, but more fool them.  No of course not, but that's different to actively paying less than you should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #18 Posted September 22, 2016 I am sure every Political Party will have someone who may have sailed close to the wind at one time or another. Â Thankfully sailing close to the wind is not the same as fiddling your tax bill. Â Move on - nowt of any importance here, Mz Rudd has nowt to answer for. Â Angel1 UKip voter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pmurtdlanod1 Â Â 10 #19 Posted September 22, 2016 Yeah everyone is just jealous of her. Shut down the debate. Move along. Nothing to see here. Tax avoiders are the salt of the earth etc... etc... Â whos jealous??? ah i see you ? dont like tax avoiders or as is commonly known as efficient use of the Uk tax laws??? i am self employed and a director so i can play it all ways:roll: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,626 #20 Posted September 22, 2016 whos jealous??? ah i see you ? dont like tax avoiders or as is commonly known as efficient use of the Uk tax laws??? i am self employed and a director so i can play it all ways:roll: Â What's the difference between 'aggressive tax avoidance', and 'efficient use of the UK tax laws'? And does the person's political persuasion have any bearing on the answer? Genuine question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RonJeremy   10 #21 Posted September 22, 2016 What's the difference between 'aggressive tax avoidance', and 'efficient use of the UK tax laws'? And does the person's political persuasion have any bearing on the answer? Genuine question.  I don't know the difference, but if she has aggressively avoided tax in the last 7 years then the HMRC will be after her. If she hasn't they won't.  Edit On reflection, they may come after her and bully and badger and threaten her until she pays for their investigation at great cost to herself in legal and accounting fees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pmurtdlanod1 Â Â 10 #22 Posted September 22, 2016 What's the difference between 'aggressive tax avoidance', and 'efficient use of the UK tax laws'? And does the person's political persuasion have any bearing on the answer? Genuine question. Â genuine answer "aggressive tax avoidance" is efficient use of the Uk tax laws as they are. on the outside there will be those that despise avoidance but still practise it secretly in one form or another generally left leaning ahem Tony Bliar et all champagne socialists etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bob Arctor   11 #23 Posted September 22, 2016 No of course not, but that's different to actively paying less than you should.  This is the obvious point that the advocates of tax dodging on this forum always try to ignore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Flanker7 Â Â 20 #24 Posted September 22, 2016 If there's nothing wrong with the practice then why is everyone in the public eye so keen to deny doing it and distance themselves from it. Â The answer is simple - It is morally wrong. Â Mind you I don't think it's their own morals that make them deny it. It is if they are seen to do it the public, and the media, will punish them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...