Poor migrants from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan

[gomgeg 10]

Halibut. You really are an unpleasant child. You accuse others of inhumanity then spend time on here insulting those who don't agree with you.

If as I suspect it's being bullied and picked on by the other kids that causes you to do this, you should report it to one of the grown ups.

I've noticed in the short time I've looked at SF that 99.9 per cent of the people on here can discuss and give opposing views on varying subjects without using the juvenile schoolyard insults you favour.

On a brighter note the people like you, with your something for nothing, someone else can pay type of socialism will have ensured oblivion for that side of Labour for at least ten years.

[tzijlstra 11]

 

Some good points here.

 

No there aren't, he is referring to an area that was predominantly Pakistani and now has Roma immigrants, neither of which are migrants from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Unless of course you are inferring all migrants are the same?

[gomgeg 10]

tzijistra. Seems a good enough reason for coming out of the EU then.

[krooner 10]

Ah yes, I see it now ----- a never ending stream of humanity from different cultures, being forever welcomed, and warmly accepted, into an ever increasingly multicultural society, enriching our everyday lives in so many ways.

Given that we don't, and never have lived in an ideal world, if such an altruistic policy were to be adopted, how could we avoid, eventually, adding to our history of human conflict?

[TJC1 10]

as neutral on the subject so dont shoot me down, read an article today. Quotes from those in the jungle, camp in calais. amusing, if not a little naive views on what they think england is like.

 

 

I'm chasing my hope because I want to study in the University of Cambridge," says Amaamer, 27, from Sudan. "It's a famous university. Since I was in secondary school I wanted to go there."

"I'm not just going there because I think it's easy," he adds.

Robah, 19, from Ethiopia says he wants to study in the UK, which he says is a "good place to be a student". Diafu, 21, from Ethiopia, also thinks he will be able to study in Britain. Diafu is angry at Britain's efforts to keep migrants out - which he sums up as "more fences, more security, sniffer dogs" - but he says whatever happens he will keep trying to cross the Channel.

Amir, 24, explains that his home country of Sudan was under British-Egyptian rule until 1956, and says this historical link is still important. "People don't know any country, only England," he says. "I know the history of England." He also says the process of applying for legal status in Britain is "very fast".

But Amir, who is helping to build a school to teach English and French in the Calais migrants camp, known as the Jungle, says he has decided to claim asylum in France.

"England is not a dreamland," he says.

His friend Wiel, 25, disagrees.

Sipping sugary tea boiled on a stove in a hut he helped to build, he says England is his "dream country", adding: "I will try until I cross."

"England is more friendly than France. People in France reject us," says Amir.

Ibrahim, 26, from Sudan, also believes better opportunities await across the Channel. "In England you get a big house," he says.

 

France is no good," says Robah. "In France there is no home and you spend months sleeping in the streets. It's different in England. They give you a house then you can wait while you get documents.

"In England they give you documents after three months but in France you wait much longer."

People speak English there," says 21-year-old Mole, from Sudan.

It might seem strange, but many migrants give answers as simple as this when asked what they know about Britain. "People who speak English want to go there," Mole says. He says English is "easy to learn" and is the language most often used between migrants who do not have the same mother tongue.

Mohammad, 27, says Britain is a "good country". "Everyone likes it," he says.

Asked what he knows about it, he shrugs and says: "I have friends in Stoke." He says he has been to Britain once - in 2004 - but was deported to Iraq. All he is sure of is that he prefers Britain to France.

The UK government understand our problems and they would give us protection," says 27-year-old Mustapha. He says he has tried to reach Britain 20 times, and getting there will "save my life". If he succeeds, he says British freedoms will enable him to campaign for change in his "very dangerous" home country of Ethiopia.

 

Mohamed, 43, has a wife and six children in his country, Egypt, and he believes if he reaches the UK they will be allowed to join him. "I want them safe and me safe too," he says. "England is the best country to help them. In England they will keep me safe."

 

There is a man I love so much - David Beckham," says Alpha, a Mauritanian carpenter who has built a thatched house in the Jungle camp. "Even my house is called David Beckham House."

Alpha says he has accepted he will not cross the Channel - but like many migrants he still dreams of doing so, saying he would work "every day" in Britain.

 

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Sorry about the long paras, on a phone!

Edited August 16, 2015 by TJC1
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[GLASGOWOODS 10]

Why doesn't 21 year old mole from Sudan burrow his way over here.

[May Blob 10]

Britain supported getting rid of Assad in Syria so it's only right that we take in refugees from there as well as Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

Refugees should go to the nearest safe country, the same applies to asylum seekers, not the best and biggest fools.

 

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Some people forget that fact, they also don't appear to realize that the overwhelming majority of Syrians haven't run away from Syria, they are still in Syria confronting the problem.

They're just waiting for an excuse and now they've got one.

 

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It appears from the news that many of the Syrians don't like Europe because it isn't the paradise they expected, but because they used all their money getting to Kos they are stuck, with this in mind wouldn't boats be more appropriate, we could supply lots of boats so that they can get home.

What a good idea.

[Solomon1 10]

It's awful.

 

I've said many of times that if I was from such 'countries', I would most certainly be amongst the migrants seeking a better life (merely a life that offers human rights) at the borders of Calais, or wherever I could get.

 

They aren't just a problem that needs to be solved. They are people. What if it was you?

 

I, personally, would like the EU to spread them out equally between all its nations. I don't know how feasible that is, but who cares? They may well face death in their own countries, no human deserves that (well.... few, anyway)

 

I so totally agree

[Plain Talker 11]

The EU isn't big enough to accommodate everyone in the world that doesn't have freedom, enough food, enough water, safety, or wants a better life. They are risking their lives trying to get it here when they should be risking their lives trying to make their own countries better, I would rather us send resources and help to the people they left behind and ship them back to the other side of the med.

 

Fortunately for the EU, most refugees are relocated to other middle eastern countries around the countries they are fleeing from.

[RonJeremy 10]

Fortunately for the EU, most refugees are relocated to other middle eastern countries around the countries they are fleeing from.

 

Good. Shame it's not all of them.

[MintPlumbing 10]

It appears from the news that many of the Syrians don't like Europe because it isn't the paradise they expected, but because they used all their money getting to Kos they are stuck, with this in mind wouldn't boats be more appropriate, we could supply lots of boats so that they can get home.

 

The Greek government has sent two cruise liners to Kos as part of emergency measures to ease migrant pressures on the island. A long line of young men have boarded after some scuffling, but I doubt it will be used to ferry them back to Turkey. The media are still avoiding filming women and children, unless there aren't that many to film.

 

Asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran threw rocks and exchanged blows near a passenger ship where hundreds of migrants were being registered.

 

The Exodus from Africa and Asia can't have much to do with war because most of the migrants are men and they are not running from countries that are in the midst of war.

[Jog_on 10]

Its sick. We need to help these people. We are a rich country and have NO excuse for letting these people die in the sea or come to a country and have nothing not even a roof over their heads.

Its shameful.

Yet we are willing to spend billions on bombs bullets and guns.

Great

 

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Careful, youre in danger of speaking good sense and the truth.

 

How are we a rich country when we are billions in debt? Our resources are diluted to the point where the working person no longer benefits from what he/she pays for. The cities are full up of dirty people who do not have the morals that our country has spent thousands of years learning. In addition, the country is full of people who hate us and want to cause us harm.