adelew1981 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 can anyone help I have a corsa b 1.7 diesel ive not had many diesels but iknow they can be a pain to start in a morning sometimes,however ive tried starting mine in a morning and it takes ages to start ive found when I turn the ignition on the glowplug light only comes on for about 2 seconds then goes off so im having to keep turning ignition on and off 20 times shouldn't the glowplug light on ignition stay on for atleast 10 seconds?ive been told there is a timing relay switch could it be this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You shouldn't need glowplugs at this time of year. As soon as the glowplug light goes out (if it comes on at all at this time of year) the car should be ready to be turned over. You really need to get a diagnostic check. It could be one of a dozen things and you'd be just wasting time and money throwing parts at the problem based on other people's experiences. When was it last serviced, including fuel filter? From my experience on Peugeots it usually a dirty fuel filter not changed in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORE Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Has it got clear tubes for the fuel leading from the pump to the injectors? Have a look for bubbles on first start of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intruder 600 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 had a car do this,was 2 glow plugs that had gone,very hard to start,replace the glow plugs,first thing i would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelew1981 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thanks for help glow plugs do look old almost rotting if am honest took a look this morning glow plugs don't look cheap tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudds1 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thanks for help glow plugs do look old almost rotting if am honest took a look this morning glow plugs don't look cheap tho Should be around £10 each from any good car spares for glow plugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Direct injection diesel engines do not require glow plugs to start, they're only needed when temperatures drop deep into the sub zero range. In weather like we are having at the moment a direct-injection engine should fire into life just fine, even with busted glow plugs. ---------- Post added 27-03-2015 at 10:45 ---------- I turn the ignition on the glowplug light only comes on for about 2 seconds then goes off so im having to keep turning ignition on and off 20 times shouldn't the glowplug light on ignition stay on for atleast 10 seconds?ive been told there is a timing relay switch could it be this? When the 'Glowplug' light is lit, it's actually showing you that they are warming up. When the light then go's out they are at operating temperature and will remain on for a while. If you wait 30 seconds or so after the light gos out you can sometimes hear a click or a clunk, that will be the relay switching off. by furiously turning the ignition on and off again you're switching the plugs off and on again and not allowing the glow plugs to stay at operating temperature. Edited March 30, 2015 by geared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 A useful chart showing glowplug times for a typical HDI engine: http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i395/aztechdi/hdiglows.jpg Note the preheating times (used to help start the car) and post times (used to reduce smoking after starting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carltoncdx Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Isn't the Corsa b diesel the Isuzu 1.7l non turbo IDI enigne?? Swirl chambers and not common rail so much lower diesel pressure so will need glowplugs to start. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Isn't the Corsa b diesel the Isuzu 1.7l non turbo IDI enigne?? Swirl chambers and not common rail so much lower diesel pressure so will need glowplugs to start. Just saying... Yea if it's indirect injection then glow plugs are required to start. I assumed it was direct-injection, I apologise. Edited March 30, 2015 by geared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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