The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[alchresearch 215]

It will be fine. Jeremy has appointed the racist Munroe Bergdorf as an equality advisor. He's got a top team on it!

 

Just reading about that! Back in September:

 

L'Oreal sacks first transgender model Munroe Bergdorf

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41127404/loreal-sacks-first-transgender-model-munroe-bergdorf

 

This is what Bergdorf said:

 

"Honestly I don't have energy to talk about the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people.

 

"Because most of ya'll don't even realise or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of colour.

 

"Your entire existence is drenched in racism."

 

And only yesterday:

 

I do continue to be confused by how somebody who identifies as a gay male can actively support a political party such as the Conservatives...

[Robin-H 11]

Just reading about that! Back in September:

 

L'Oreal sacks first transgender model Munroe Bergdorf

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41127404/loreal-sacks-first-transgender-model-munroe-bergdorf

 

This is what Bergdorf said:

 

 

 

And only yesterday:

 

Bergdorf should also be surprised why gay people would want to vote for Corbyn..

 

Corbyn hailed Fidel Castro as a 'champion of social justice'.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-corbyn-hails-fidel-castro-as-a-champion-of-social-justice-a7440696.html

 

A champion of social justice that executed gay people for being gay..

 

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/28/this-is-how-fidel-castro-persecuted-gay-people/

[banjodeano 31]

Bergdorf should also be surprised why gay people would want to vote for Corbyn..

 

Corbyn hailed Fidel Castro as a 'champion of social justice'.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-corbyn-hails-fidel-castro-as-a-champion-of-social-justice-a7440696.html

 

A champion of social justice that executed gay people for being gay..

 

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/28/this-is-how-fidel-castro-persecuted-gay-people/

 

no he didnt, did you actually listen to what he said?

[Robin-H 11]

no he didnt, did you actually listen to what he said?

 

The article I posted contains a quote..

 

"For all his flaws, Castro’s support for Angola played a crucial role in bringing an end to Apartheid in South Africa, and he will be remembered both as an internationalist and a champion of social justice.”

 

Is the quote in the article wrong?

[banjodeano 31]

The article I posted contains a quote..

 

"For all his flaws, Castro’s support for Angola played a crucial role in bringing an end to Apartheid in South Africa, and he will be remembered both as an internationalist and a champion of social justice.”

 

Is the quote in the article wrong?

 

I'll ask again, did you actually listen to what he says?

he doesnt say that, and he certainly doesnt say "a champion of social justice"

but i will stand corrected if you can point to the moment of his speech where he does

[Robin-H 11]

I'll ask again, did you actually listen to what he says?

he doesnt say that, and he certainly doesnt say "a champion of social justice"

but i will stand corrected if you can point to the moment of his speech where he does

 

You do understand that the entirety of what Corbyn has said or written about Castro isn't limited to that little video clip embedded in that news article yes?

 

The quote contained within the article, from which I quoted, comes from a statement written by Mr Corbyn following Castro's death.

 

You can deny it all you want. Corbyn did call Castro a champion of social justice.

[banjodeano 31]

You do understand that the entirety of what Corbyn has said or written about Castro isn't limited to that little video clip embedded in that news article yes?

 

The quote contained within the article, from which I quoted, comes from a statement written by Mr Corbyn following Castro's death.

 

You can deny it all you want. Corbyn did call Castro a champion of social justice.

 

So i can take it you didn't listen to what he actually said then? and you are indeed wrong with your statement that he called Castro a champion of social justice? i listened to the clip and i never heard that said, but thanks for the link anyway.....

I stand by my original comment that he didnt say that,

[Robin-H 11]

So i can take it you didn't listen to what he actually said then? and you are indeed wrong with your statement that he called Castro a champion of social justice? i listened to the clip and i never heard that said, but thanks for the link anyway.....

I stand by my original comment that he didnt say that,

 

Wow. Are you for real?

 

https://labourlist.org/2016/11/a-huge-figure-of-modern-history-and-20th-century-socialism-corbyns-tribute-to-fidel-castro/

 

He categorically did say that. It was an official statement following Castro's death.

 

You can read it via the labour list website instead if you like.

 

I am assuming you have the ability read? An inability to do so would explain why you can only understand things in video form I suppose.

[banjodeano 31]

Wow. Are you for real?

 

https://labourlist.org/2016/11/a-huge-figure-of-modern-history-and-20th-century-socialism-corbyns-tribute-to-fidel-castro/

 

He categorically did say that. It was an official statement following Castro's death.

 

You can read it via the labour list website instead if you like.

 

I am assuming you have the ability read? An inability to do so would explain why you can only understand things in video form I suppose.

 

Ah, Labourlist, the Blairite faction of the party?

Sorry but i dont believe anything that he is supposed to have said that i dont hear from his own lips, usually most of his words and context get twisted for idiots like you, i have heard a lot of what he has said about Castro and have never heard him call him a champion of social justice, but i stand to be corrected if you have a video clip...sorry old chap, have another go

[Robin-H 11]

Ah, Labourlist, the Blairite faction of the party?

Sorry but i dont believe anything that he is supposed to have said that i dont hear from his own lips, usually most of his words and context get twisted for idiots like you, i have heard a lot of what he has said about Castro and have never heard him call him a champion of social justice, but i stand to be corrected if you have a video clip...sorry old chap, have another go

 

So you don't believe an official statement by Corbyn because he didn't orate it, but merely wrote it. Presumably you hold the same high standard for everyone, and so all official statements are worthless unless they are vocalised by the person who wrote them. Indeed, all of Corbyn's other statements are presumably worthless too?

 

I can understand why you don't want to admit that your beloved Corbyn called Castro a champion of social justice when he executed gay people for being gay, but it is the unfortunate truth that he did.

 

Instead of blinding denying the truth, which makes you look rather silly, you should either admit that Corbyn was wrong to say that, or say you don't think it matters that Corbyn said that. Trying to argue that Corbyn didn't say that when that exact quote is contained in an official press release is pretty nonsensical.

[banjodeano 31]

So you don't believe an official statement by Corbyn because he didn't orate it, but merely wrote it. Presumably you hold the same high standard for everyone, and so all official statements are worthless unless they are vocalised by the person who wrote them. Indeed, all of Corbyn's other statements are presumably worthless too?

 

I can understand why you don't want to admit that your beloved Corbyn called Castro a champion of social justice when he executed gay people for being gay, but it is the unfortunate truth that he did.

 

Instead of blinding denying the truth, which makes you look rather silly, you should either admit that Corbyn was wrong to say that, or say you don't think it matters that Corbyn said that. Trying to argue that Corbyn didn't say that when that exact quote is contained in an official press release is pretty nonsensical.

I'm not going to wast any more time on this, we are getting nowhere, come back when you have any evidence that he actually spoke those words

[Robin-H 11]

I'm not going to wast any more time on this, we are getting nowhere, come back when you have any evidence that he actually spoke those words

 

Nobody is claiming he spoke those words. Claiming evidence of that is required is a classic straw man

 

He did however write those words, in an official statement no less.