El Cid   221 #169 Posted April 9, 2013 After reading the many derogatory statements regarding Mrs Thatcher I can only assume that most of those posting did not live in this country in the 60s and 70s and witness the humiliation of our country in decline.  It would be good to have a poll on who supports Thatcherism and the bedroom tax(withdrawing benefit). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Michael_W Â Â 11 #170 Posted April 9, 2013 Greed is an inherant human trait, anyone thinking they can purely blame Mrs Thatcher or her policies for that is seriously deluded. some people are exaggerating her legacy beyond belief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jason Bourne   11 #171 Posted April 9, 2013 The only thing I will remember fondly about Thatcher is the EU rebate that she fought the rest of Europe for (politically speaking). I've read that it was worth £2billion a year at the time.  Of course, that coward Blair gave up the rebate a couple of years ago. I think he planned to appease the French and the Germans, so they'd elect him as head of the EU.  But they didn't, Blair got played for a fool, and now the country is several billion a year worse off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #172 Posted April 9, 2013 Greed is an inherant human trait, anyone thinking they can purely blame Mrs Thatcher or her policies for that is seriously deluded. some people are exaggerating her legacy beyond belief. Some people don’t think greed existed for the thousands of years before Thatcher; Thatcher just wanted everyone to have a stake in the country and not just the wealthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   221 #173 Posted April 9, 2013 Some people don’t think greed existed for the thousands of years before Thatcher; Thatcher just wanted everyone to have a stake in the country and not just the wealthy.  That is one way to increase the greed/competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hillpig   10 #174 Posted April 9, 2013 I think that when you compare and contrast the policies of Thatcher to the Labour party at the time we have an interesting "what if" scenario.  Had Labour won the 1979 election there is a strong possibility that the extreme left would have taken over the party. Had we carried on in the manner they wished, the UK would be out of Europe (it was Labour policy to leave in the 1983 election manifesto).  Our economy could well have been similar to North Korea or Cuba. Split from Europe and the USA, where would out trading partners be?  In the late 70s there were no emerging personalities from the Tories apart from Clarke, Heseltine and Thatcher.  Thatcher emerged just in time. She saved this nation in peacetime as Churchill saved it in wartime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #175 Posted April 9, 2013 That is one way to increase the greed/competition.  So it would have been better if we serfs weren't so greedy and happy to work for the wealthy, as well as rent form the wealthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   221 #176 Posted April 9, 2013 So it would have been better if we serfs weren't so greedy and happy to work for the wealthy, as well as rent form the wealthy.  We got so wealthy, that we now need to import serfs from accross the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
airking   10 #177 Posted April 9, 2013 So it would have been better if we serfs weren't so greedy and happy to work for the wealthy, as well as rent form the wealthy.  You describe the present day very well in that post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #178 Posted April 9, 2013 Have you seen how the unions in Germany are doing? Or, how the German economy is doing?  I'm sorry but that has nothing to do with Thatcher and probably result in slanging matches between left and right and having read through the later posts first seems to be what has happened. This is about what Thatcher did for better or for worse and not a generalisation of political vews, unless it's deliberate digression to try and get the thread locked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,632 #179 Posted April 9, 2013 I think that when you compare and contrast the policies of Thatcher to the Labour party at the time we have an interesting "what if" scenario. Had Labour won the 1979 election there is a strong possibility that the extreme left would have taken over the party. Had we carried on in the manner they wished, the UK would be out of Europe (it was Labour policy to leave in the 1983 election manifesto).  Our economy could well have been similar to North Korea or Cuba. Split from Europe and the USA, where would out trading partners be?  In the late 70s there were no emerging personalities from the Tories apart from Clarke, Heseltine and Thatcher.  Thatcher emerged just in time. She saved this nation in peacetime as Churchill saved it in wartime.   Many haighly venerated commentators and politicians are saying the exact opposite as I speak. Just been watching an interesting documentary about the plundering of the Revenues from North Sea Oil.....All in the name of testing out some ideology. Such a waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WeX   10 #180 Posted April 9, 2013 I thought you didn't need google. I have read all that and lots more on the subject and none of it alters two things. 1/ You was wrong when you said she did not support Pinochet. 2/ She still supported him after finding out about all the vile crimes him and his secret police had committed against innocent people.  I also observe you have totally ignored what I posted about her comments on Nelson Mandela.  by the definition of the word he was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...