Stop the bedroom tax - petition

[uncle eddy]

So where do you get your "factual" news from then?

 

BBC Radio, Sunday Sport section...

 

Was wondering, there are always choices, if i wanted to move from a council dwelling and free my self from rent of any type, i buy a large tent, is there anywhere in our free nation that i could pitch it without a problem?

[Douglas J]

Again: no-one pays a bedroom tax.

 

except people on low incomes

[carosio]

I didn't know until today that this "Tax" is age based, and that you don't pay it if your a pensioner - That I knew, what I didn't know is that because the pension age is not yet uniform, Women stop paying or don't have to pay earlier than men, as they retire earlier.

This surly is against the equality laws of the EU.

 

This raises an interesting point - where one person in a joint tenancy is of pensionable age and the other isn't:

 

http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/4304/

 

Still cant understand it.

[Chez2]

So where do you get your "factual" news from then?

 

I watch the news to get the gist of what is going on around the world. If I want to know the facts about something I read research papers or specialist publications. You often see news items billed as some breakthrough new development when its been covered in the New Scientist several years previously. You can pick up a copy of this in WH Smiths and most of the articles are writen in terms that anyone can understand, they might not understand the details facts but they would easily understand the article.

 

My friend used to work in a newsagents and bring home a copy of every paper on a Sunday. Four of us used to read the papers and compare the same story in each paper. They 'facts' varied so much I decided never to waste money buying a newspaper again. That was back in the late 80s.

[Tank123]

I have seen people get benefits who have kids and the first thing they do is get fags and booze and when their child asks for a 10 p packet of crisps they snipe back and say no. I have seen this first hand working in a shop in barnsley, this was a regular occurence and the norm for that area.

 

I am not saying that all benefit people waste money but I have also done tuition for people who are on benefits and they have paid me £20 an hour to do the tuition. Surely if they have this sort of money they are getting too much?? Or on the other side you could argue they are paying for a tutor for their children so their children don't end up on benefits. Difficult to judge.

 

Should people on benefits have the luxury of a car and holidays?

[El Cid]

 

Should people on benefits have the luxury of a car and holidays?

 

Perhaps they should only get benefits if they have done things like; all children taught to swim and given MMR?

[Chez2]

I have seen people get benefits who have kids and the first thing they do is get fags and booze and when their child asks for a 10 p packet of crisps they snipe back and say no. I have seen this first hand working in a shop in barnsley, this was a regular occurence and the norm for that area.

 

I am not saying that all benefit people waste money but I have also done tuition for people who are on benefits and they have paid me £20 an hour to do the tuition. Surely if they have this sort of money they are getting too much?? Or on the other side you could argue they are paying for a tutor for their children so their children don't end up on benefits. Difficult to judge.

 

Should people on benefits have the luxury of a car and holidays?

 

Benefits should keep a roof over their heads, keep them warm and fed and thats it if they are fit to work. This doesn't apply to the vulnerable in society.

 

In the 90s I saw someone pay towards a packet of cigs in a corner shop with milk tokens. I don't tell tales so I let it go but I felt really bad about this for ages.

[honeyb35]

This raises an interesting point - where one person in a joint tenancy is of pensionable age and the other isn't:

 

http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/4304/

 

Still cant understand it.

 

I put a post about this a few pages back and had no replies, my parents are in a similar situation in that one is over pension age and the other isn't (but is a carer hence claiming Hb). My confusion was that they are in a 2 bed upper floor sheltered accommodation property that isn't high demand, but if they were expected to move, it would potentially be to a one bed ordinary flat....that isn't age restricted.

[Chez2]

Perhaps they should only get benefits if they have done things like; all children taught to swim and given MMR?

 

Many a true word spoken in jest!

 

If it were left to me they would have to spend 37 hours a week doing a combination of volunteering/study/applying for work to obtain benefits. Again, this is doesn't apply to the vulnerable or caarers as carers do more than a full time job. I'm not sure about top up benefits for low paid workers as I don't know how much they obtain. They shouldn't be having a luxury lifestyle on benefits but I don't agree with people living in poverty if they are working.

[pottedplant]

I have seen people get benefits who have kids and the first thing they do is get fags and booze and when their child asks for a 10 p packet of crisps they snipe back and say no. I have seen this first hand working in a shop in barnsley, this was a regular occurence and the norm for that area.

 

I am not saying that all benefit people waste money but I have also done tuition for people who are on benefits and they have paid me £20 an hour to do the tuition. Surely if they have this sort of money they are getting too much?? Or on the other side you could argue they are paying for a tutor for their children so their children don't end up on benefits. Difficult to judge.

 

Should people on benefits have the luxury of a car and holidays?

 

Have you really charged the unemployed £20 an hour for tuition?