S1 1DJ Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Oh dear.... You are one of the ones who harp on about cuts and lack of jobs - Next would bring 125 jobs. And guess what, they would get paid at least the minimum wage (not chicken feed). When will some people get the message - we are not a manufacturing country anymore! Firms go to Germany and China now for this - because it's cheaper and the staff are more likely to get on with the work and less likely to strike. The Unions pretty much killed manufacturing in this country. Or rather a Governments move towards the service sector and free market in the 80's onwards? One of the reasons Germany economy is in a strong position is that they have a diverse economy. Your latter comments about unions is questionable - Germany's main manufacturing union has was over 2 million members and hardly have killed off the secondry sector. The German workforce have better labour laws and a stronger economy - you rationale is flawed and possibly biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtc Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Oh dear.... You are one of the ones who harp on about cuts and lack of jobs - Next would bring 125 jobs. And guess what, they would get paid at least the minimum wage (not chicken feed) Wow - at least the minimum wage? Fantastic!!!!111!!!!! Sheffield should bend over backwards and let NEXT build whatever it wants without worrying about planning regulations or land use or the like (apparently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Excellent decision by the council. The land around Meadowhall needs to be reserved for productive use (ie manufacturing) rather than another mindless shop selling foreign produced rubbish and paying chicken-feed wages to their staff. If there were companies wanting to set up manufacturing sites I'm sure Sheffield Council would support it. Truth is manufacturing has been on the decline since Thatcher during the 80s. I think its good rather the land be put to some good use. What the alternative leaving it derelict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Scc obviously awash with money and doesnt need the extra business rates!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Scc obviously awash with money and doesnt need the extra business rates!!!! Does the local council get any of the business rates directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Other cities successfully manage to have big out of town shopping centres and still have thriving city centres. Manchester and Leeds are both good shopping destinations with great city centres, yet both have out of town malls, so what does this say about Sheffield? I think it says more about our council and their inability to manage and successfully achieve both and demonstrates a lack of vision by our council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Other cities successfully manage to have big out of town shopping centres and still have thriving city centres. Manchester and Leeds are both good shopping destinations with great city centres, yet both have out of town malls, so what does this say about Sheffield? I think it says more about our council and their inability to manage and successfully achieve both and demonstrates a lack of vision by our council. The planning refusal for NEXT and IKEA clearly prove that sheffield council does not like competition for the city centre, even though the city centre is dead and buried. SCC clearly wants to run a cartel where it wont allow any stores to open within a certain radius of the city centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtc Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 The planning refusal for NEXT and IKEA clearly prove that sheffield council does not like competition for the city centre, even though the city centre is dead and buried. SCC clearly wants to run a cartel where it wont allow any stores to open within a certain radius of the city centre You mean like the Tesco on Saville Street? Or the Sainsburys at the old Bakery site at Herries Road/ Leppings Lane? Or the redevelopment of Kilner Way Retail Park? Or the new stores near Crystal Peaks? When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You mean like the Tesco on Saville Street? Or the Sainsburys at the old Bakery site at Herries Road/ Leppings Lane? Or the redevelopment of Kilner Way Retail Park? Or the new stores near Crystal Peaks? When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it? They will never win with all the bitter Lib Dem Tories who use every opportunity to attack them, thank God they more of them are being vanquished from the Town Hall at every election! ---------- Post added 01-01-2013 at 20:15 ---------- Oh dear.... You are one of the ones who harp on about cuts and lack of jobs - Next would bring 125 jobs. And guess what, they would get paid at least the minimum wage (not chicken feed). When will some people get the message - we are not a manufacturing country anymore! Firms go to Germany and China now for this - because it's cheaper and the staff are more likely to get on with the work and less likely to strike. The Unions pretty much killed manufacturing in this country. WOW! not the minimu wage!!! Your second comment about the unions killing manufacturing is utter claptrap. Thatchers policies wiped out most of our industrial base between 1980 and 1985. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggs Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it? Both there are plenty of supermarkets, independent food shops, and markets in Sheffield but there aren't that many home improvement and furniture shops. Additionally people can have different criticisms of the council at different times, the people of Sheffield don't speak with one coherent voice we're not in North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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