Cyclone Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So just to be clear , are you claiming that cyclists represent NO danger what so ever on the roads. ? Â No I'm not. Â The danger they represent is on a similar level to a pedestrian though and so only requires the same level of management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So just to be clear , are you claiming that cyclists represent NO danger what so ever on the roads. ? Â No, just that it's minimal (almost non existent) compared to cars and other motor vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Not at all. So i take it you are happy to see cyclists remain totally unregulated and unregistered. ? Â Yes, I certainly am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yes, I certainly am. Â So , how do you suggest identifying cyclists who jump red lights, make illegal turns and commit other road traffic offences , or are you happy for cyclists to be able to do what they like on the roads and be totally unanswerable for these offences. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Given that they primarily pose a danger to themselves, there's no point in spending money on enforcement. Â If there are persistent offenders (and I think there are) then you should report them and a nice PC on his own mountain bike can arrest them the next day when they run the same light. Â None of which is remotely related to the original post, which was about a car pulling out with indicating or checking the way was clear. Do you think that the fact that some cyclists break the rules means that car drivers should do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibbles Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) So , how do you suggest identifying cyclists who jump red lights, make illegal turns and commit other road traffic offences , or are you happy for cyclists to be able to do what they like on the roads and be totally unanswerable for these offences. ?  Who identifies these people then? You?? What do you propose to do with this information?, report it to the Police? As I said to another user, stand at any main junction/roundabout/crossing and note down every traffic offence you witness and report them all to the Police. They'll do you for wasting Police time  Lets imagine how this might go..... You - Dear Mr Police, I am reporting a cyclist running a red light, here is the registration number.  Police to Cyclist, after they've been tracked down - Mr cyclist, we have a report of you running a red light Cyclist to Police - No I didn't Police to Cyclist - erm...Someone says you did Cyclist to Police - No I didn't  Repeat ad-infinitum.....  Eventual outcome? Nothing, money and Police time wasted as it's your word against cyclist. A similar outcome would occur were I to report a car driver running a red light. The problem just doesn't exist, it's not important enough to warrant any change. Regardless, it's not going to happen Edited October 16, 2012 by wibbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBiz Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Goodness, I obviously touched a raw nerve when I started a thread that mentioned the 'C' word, if the pages of rants and counter-rants are anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Given that they primarily pose a danger to themselves, there's no point in spending money on enforcement. If there are persistent offenders (and I think there are) then you should report them and a nice PC on his own mountain bike can arrest them the next day when they run the same light.  None of which is remotely related to the original post, which was about a car pulling out with indicating or checking the way was clear. Do you think that the fact that some cyclists break the rules means that car drivers should do so?  But again ,with cyclists being un-licenced they basically have free reign to commit the same offences over and over again with no framework in place to ban them from the roads for persistent offending . Motorist have a four strikes and out rule as far as our licences are concerned . four offences and we have to serve a ban from the roads , where as cyclists have no such threat hanging over them, so have no incentive to obey them laws of the roads.  Do you agree that cyclists should be licenced and should have to play by the same rules as motorists . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So , how do you suggest identifying cyclists who jump red lights, make illegal turns and commit other road traffic offences , or are you happy for cyclists to be able to do what they like on the roads and be totally unanswerable for these offences. ? Â As most cyclists are clothed could you not record what they are wearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 As most cyclists are clothed could you not record what they are wearing? Â But they all wear the same Florescent coloured Lycra and pointy helmets ,so how do you tell them apart. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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