melthebell Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've been using DuckDuckGo on and off for some time. Not because I'm paranoid about Google or anything, but just because I believe in strong choice and options for the user. Monopolies are no use to any of us imho. I'm finding that DDG is improving all the time, and I imagine the more people use it the better it will become. Give it a shot. ive just had a nosey at that, bit cheeky tho to become an "alternative" to google / bing...........they have to use options to search google / bings image searchs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmie92 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You can select which sites can and cannot deliver ads. In Gmail I have never seen any ads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarfendor437 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You can select which sites can and cannot deliver ads. In Gmail I have never seen any ads That's because under the new system there won't be a need to - the way I see it going is it's 'Organised PHORM' without the ISP as go-between!:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmie92 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 That's because under the new system there won't be a need to - the way I see it going is it's 'Organised PHORM' without the ISP as go-between!:hihi: I thought it was only Virgin Media that was considering implementing targeted advertising via Phorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Bob Before you do more research for "the software that shall not be named" I ask you this. How do you think websites like this one stay online? Without the ads the revenue stream has gone and down goes the site. There aren't many site owners who do it "for the love" and end up out of pocket to provide such a service. It would be nice if you could have ads without being tracked though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I thought it was only Virgin Media that was considering implementing targeted advertising via Phorm. BT ran (illegal) trials. Virgin Media and Talk Talk were talking to Phorm and waiting to see how the trials went. When BT got into trouble Talk Talk announced they wouldn't implement such a system. VM got cold feet as well but, as far as I know, have never said they wouldn't implement a Phorm like system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarfendor437 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) I thought it was only Virgin Media that was considering implementing targeted advertising via Phorm. I was being sarcastic towards Google - they will control the horizontal, they will control the vertical - your internet spider's web becomes their domain - and they can fly in anytime and not get caught! As for other postings about TT (TalkTalk) a lot of suspicion of PHORM has been laid at their 'HomeSafe' software which I refuse to sign up to. Edited January 29, 2012 by swarfendor43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I was being sarcastic towards Google - they will control the horizontal, they will control the vertical - your internet spider's web becomes their domain - and they can fly in anytime and not get caught! As for other postings about TT (TalkTalk) a lot of suspicion of PHORM has been laid at their 'HomeSafe' software which I refuse to sign up to. You mean StalkStalk. They are still launching what are effectively replay attacks on web sites their customers visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAtkin Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Its crazy that they are doing things like this as its the same principle as tapping someones phone. URLs do not just contain the addresses to the site, they often also contain form submissions too which at the very least means they are logging things like what you searched on Google. At least Google are logging data already aimed at their servers, which is arguably a right they have as the server operator. However people do forget that by accessing a site you are bound by their rules (at least those rules which are legally binding, they often put things in there which actually aren't legally enforceable). If you disagree you shouldn't use it and if you outright break the rules you are technically breaking the law. You are only authorised to use the network in accordance with the rules and if you disobey its the same as using it without permission, hence illegal. At no point however does using an ISP give them the right to snoop on what you are doing, unless they are totally clear up front that they are doing so. There is an expectation of privacy just like you do not expect someone to be listening in on your phone calls. Edited January 30, 2012 by AlexAtkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denomis Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Google isn't an ISP though and if you want to use googles service then you accept googles rules. Maybe you should just take the tissue boxes off your feet and chill out a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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