The rise of criminal gang culture; why and how?

[Tony 10]

Government? Parents? Police? Media? A shift in morals? Opportunity? Instinct?

 

Why do you think we see the criminal gang culture that has come to stalk our streets in recent times?

[Electerrific 14]

It's the lax in discipline at home/school, the lowering of morals and boundaries and the rise of showbiz-inspired gangster-rap and films.

 

We seriously need either National Service or Brat Camps etc for all youths, which would break down arrogance, irresponsibility and barriers.

[taxman 12]

Hasn't criminal gang culture been around for ages?

 

Mods and Teddy Boys in the 50's-60's, organised football hooligans in the 70's-80's, fops and dandies during the Regency period?

[DaFoot 10]

Essentially I think it comes down to people seeing they can get away with it. That and poor discipline.

[Agent Orange 11]

Hasn't criminal gang culture been around for ages?

 

Mods and Teddy Boys in the 50's-60's, organised football hooligans in the 70's-80's, fops and dandies during the Regency period?

 

Exactly. This is just another adoptation of gang culture. Innit!

[Electerrific 14]

Hasn't criminal gang culture been around for ages?

 

Mods and Teddy Boys in the 50's-60's, organised football hooligans in the 70's-80's, fops and dandies during the Regency period?

Yes, there were mobs in all eras of history, but in latter decades there hasn't been the bitter and blatant disregard for law and humanity.

 

I'd have brought in the army, to make a strong point for elsewhere and the future.

[quisquose 10]

Government? Parents? Police? Media? A shift in morals? Opportunity? Instinct?

 

Why do you think we see the criminal gang culture that has come to stalk our streets in recent times?

 

Demographics more likely.

 

The stupid are now out-breeding the sensible by a significant margin. An increasing population chasing fewer jobs and resources.

 

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=835560

 

Greater access to information which fuels selfishness and jealousies about what other people have rather than things that are really important.

 

Whilst my parents generation had to think long and hard about the responsibilities of having children, today's generation don't want that responsibility. In fact we have built a society in which the stupid are encouraged to breed.

 

A police spokesman has just been on the radio moaning about the fact that the requests last night for parents to contact their kids seemed to fall on "deaf ears". No doubt many "parents" were cheering their kids on, or actively involved.

 

[alchresearch 215]

I felt sorry for Diane Abbot. She obviously cares about the black communities and she's right that nobody is going to care or invest in them after this.

 

I doubt those with a house full of looted ipods will realise they sold out their community.

[OneVision 10]

Nero fiddles while rome burns comes to mind. Meanwhile it's kicked off in Bristol, Nottingham, Birmingham & Liverpool.

[alchresearch 215]

Has anyone seen that semi-professional flyer that's been produced and handed round to the looters about having nothing to fear, and giving them advice on getting away with it?

[OneVision 10]

Nottingham. gang of 30 went on rampage smashing windows, police station, 40 vehicles damaged, in city centre. Birmingham, Jeweller watched store being ransacked on cctv at home could do nothing about it, Armani branch totally cleaned out 200 youths attacked windows with hammers etc. Liverpool, started 10.30 last night gangs up to 300 in city centre , in toxteth cars smashed, bricks and golf clubs used to smash windows, Tesco targeted by kids as young as 13 , who were seen carrying alchol and cigarettes. source: Five Live

[grafikhaus74 10]

Why?

 

First off (as usual) the politicians. Cutting police numbers. Refusing to build more and bigger prisons and the 'slap on the wrist' treatments given to criminals.

 

Also, with this country awash with scumbags, was it really necessary to import a few million more?

 

Second, the 'parents'. Calls for parents to 'keep their children indoors' are laughable. We're into the third generation of scum now. The parents gave no thought to having their kids, so the idea that they're actually bothered where their walking Frankensteins are at night is ludicrous.