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Do the strikers loose any pay when they strike? Seems its a bit of a bad time to go ahead with this when the country's on its knees, bit like a kick in the teeth. I don't bear any grudge for the lower end of the public sector (Im deeply grateful to them) they deserve every penny of their pension . Its the gold plated public sector pensions which are subsidised to the tune of one trillion pounds by hard working tax payers that gets me. These strikes will crush already struggling taxpayers.
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Spot on
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I agree with you , the people who initiated these actions definately showed some level of dissociation from society, I heard it described yesterday by one psychologist as sociopathy. On the greed issue here's an article about one teen gang who went on a looting spree, filling their transit up several times & selling the goods on. http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16048584
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An excellent article in the Telegraph by Peter Oborne The moral decay of our society is as bad at the top as the bottom http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/author/peteroborne/
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I was in the same area a week before the riots, we used public transport and travelled by bus, train & underground. My perception is certainly different from yours. Although I believe the riots to be a result of basic human greed and nothing to do with race.
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Seconded, well said harvey
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Tougher sentencing and not just a slap on the wrist, fine or community service. A harsher punishment to put the message across that crime does not pay.
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The thugs are rioting and looting simply because they can. Like bullies treat them with kid gloves, find excuses for what they are doing and use the softly softly approach and they will continue behaving like bullies, face up to them and show them that what they are doing wont be tolerated and you'll find that they turn into pussies and crawl back into their cage.
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Just listening to the news re reports of it kicking off in Salford, my oh said wonder if it will spread to Glasgow at which point I nearly spat out my tea, after living in Scotland for nearly 12 years somehow or other I don't think the Scots would sit back and watch.
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Well said Callum, its the honest decent working people that suffer in all of this.
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The rise of criminal gang culture; why and how?
OneVision replied to Tony's topic in General Discussions
Nottingham. gang of 30 went on rampage smashing windows, police station, 40 vehicles damaged, in city centre. Birmingham, Jeweller watched store being ransacked on cctv at home could do nothing about it, Armani branch totally cleaned out 200 youths attacked windows with hammers etc. Liverpool, started 10.30 last night gangs up to 300 in city centre , in toxteth cars smashed, bricks and golf clubs used to smash windows, Tesco targeted by kids as young as 13 , who were seen carrying alchol and cigarettes. source: Five Live -
The rise of criminal gang culture; why and how?
OneVision replied to Tony's topic in General Discussions
Nero fiddles while rome burns comes to mind. Meanwhile it's kicked off in Bristol, Nottingham, Birmingham & Liverpool. -
Me neither, maybe risk assessment has something to do with it, the police definately look like they're holding back.
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In Ealing shop owners have been forced to defend themselves with weapons. Mass looting is going on all over the country. One report from Birmingham states that Asian shops had been looted and they were gearing up to retaliate. What we're seeing now is 'Broken Britain' one business owner lost his business in Croydon that had been in the family for over 140 years, mindless violence.
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This is beginning to look like organised crime, I was listening to BBC reports this morning. One reporter tells of kids breaking shop windows, stealing goods and being redirected to other areas by older guys in cars, he was robbed of his camera,wallet and beaten. It's been coming for some time, gang crime has been rife on our streets for years, the last government pussyfooted around and never got a hold of it, we're now seeing the consequences.