green Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 False benefit claims - illegal Tax avoidance - legal Big difference. Most of the MP expenses claims were legal....did that have you angry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I've had a look around on you tube. There's one video that has bits of the footage but it has been cut with other things so it isnt very clear. The footage I'm referring to starts at 0.25 secs until 0.33 secs in this video. It was repeatedly shown on BBC news yesterday. I'll keep an eye out for a better quality version of the full coverage or you could contact the guy who posted this and ask for a copy of the full footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkirZcOg27Q&feature=watch_response theres this one aswell but the cameras a bit too shakey to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 As opposed to the 60 odd million who agreed with the Govt and the regrettably necessary cuts to resolve the terrible mess Labour left us.... 27.148 million voted, the majority of people in the country did not vote. Turnout was however 65% amongst the voting class. Many did not even get to have a say, nor was there somebody to have a say on their behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 I've had a look around on you tube. There's one video that has bits of the footage but it has been cut with other things so it isnt very clear. The footage I'm referring to starts at 0.25 secs until 0.33 secs in this video. It was repeatedly shown on BBC news yesterday. I'll keep an eye out for a better quality version of the full coverage or you could contact the guy who posted this and ask for a copy of the full footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkirZcOg27Q&feature=watch_response Agent provocateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Agent provocateur. bet your wearing some of those knickers arent you? errrrrrm i mean *gets coat* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan22 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I've had a look around on you tube. There's one video that has bits of the footage but it has been cut with other things so it isnt very clear. The footage I'm referring to starts at 0.25 secs until 0.33 secs in this video. It was repeatedly shown on BBC news yesterday. I'll keep an eye out for a better quality version of the full coverage or you could contact the guy who posted this and ask for a copy of the full footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkirZcOg27Q&feature=watch_response Don’t worry about substantiating the footage. Whatever you show them they will find a way of accusing you of being crazy. It's the party line. Much like the Stalinists who put dissidents in gulags and sanitarians for not believing in Socialism. I’m sure the irony will be lost on them however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 it doesnt make it morally right tho, just because somethings legal or illegal doesnt change it from being right or wrong what does tax avoidance have to do with morality? would you pay more tax than you need too? all tax legislation offers opportunities for anyone (individuals and companies) to quite legitimately reduce the amount of tax they pay. the ease and amount that can be saved depends on the nature of the business and the quality of the legislation. i would imagine that most of the avoidance schemes could be closed down overnight should the government have a mind to do it but no matter how tightly the legislation was crafted other opportunities would be opened up. further opportunities would arise as new legislation was created and existing legislation amended or repealed. most, if not all, of the current avoidance methods were created by the previous government and its predecessors and none of them showed much enthusiasm for dealing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 bet your wearing some of those knickers arent you? errrrrrm i mean *gets coat* Don’t worry about substantiating the footage. Whatever you show them they will find a way of accusing you of being crazy. It's the party line. Much like the Stalinists who put dissidents in gulags and sanitarians for not believing in Socialism. I’m sure the irony will be lost on them however. Lol! I'll bear these comments in mind thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 what does tax avoidance have to do with morality? would you pay more tax than you need too? all tax legislation offers opportunities for anyone (individuals and companies) to quite legitimately reduce the amount of tax they pay. the ease and amount that can be saved depends on the nature of the business and the quality of the legislation. i would imagine that most of the avoidance schemes could be closed down overnight should the government have a mind to do it but no matter how tightly the legislation was crafted other opportunities would be opened up. further opportunities would arise as new legislation was created and existing legislation amended or repealed. most, if not all, of the current avoidance methods were created by the previous government and its predecessors and none of them showed much enthusiasm for dealing with them. think about the morality, the violence in london yesterday WASNT just about cuts, its about a deap seated anger slowly building. an anger due to the fact that the vast majority of us are getting screwed and pushed closer to debt yet the rich are STILL lining their pockets and making more from peoples misery but then we are ALL in this together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 think about the morality, the violence in london yesterday WASNT just about cuts, its about a deap seated anger slowly building. an anger due to the fact that the vast majority of us are getting screwed and pushed closer to debt yet the rich are STILL lining their pockets and making more from peoples misery but then we are ALL in this together And when you finish smashing windows and throwing paint and stuff at coppers, the rich will still be lining their pockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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