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There is a North/South divide in Sheffield. Shame on us!

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I have noticed a huge difference between playgrounds in different parts of the city.

Parks in the more affluent parts of the city (lets call them South) have up to the minute apparatus with child safe surfaces.

The less affluent areas (lets call them North) have parks with worn out apparatus, and dangerous tarmac floor surfaces.

 

Lodge Moor has a beautiful kids playground with lovely equipment. However, it was provided by fund raising from the local residents. Still doesn't stop the yobs trashing the place though.......

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Money talks...............

 

that's true, but all it ever seems to say to me is "See ya!"

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Are you testing me, or are you about to give us all a revelation?

Don't be shy dongle. Share it with the group.

 

not testing you at all.

i just wondered why you think that the parks are better in the south but the council dont have many public sports centres in the south.

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So it seems this divide is actually between parts of the city where residents get organised and work hard to make good things happen, and parts where they sit on their sofas and complain about how unfair everything is. Shame on them!

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the one at charnock I thought was always quite nice (where I grew up/parents still live)

 

The one at Aston doesnt look so good where I am now. (the one not far from the robin hood)

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"Funded by local residents" is the problem, isn't it ? I don't mean that people shouldn't do it if they want to, but that they shouldn't have to. Decent play areas are surely something we would want to be funded out of council tax (or is that too socialist for Fulwood?).

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Britain in Bloom is down to local business and residents!!!! There's nothing stopping Gleadless Valley and Fir Vale from being involved, other that a lack of interest and motivation.

 

Darnall in bloom flourishes during the summer months!

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1 factor which a lot of people seem to dismiss is that a lot of these so called better areas have communities which have grown up together literaly through generations, when were talking about the likes of Totley, Dore, Millhouses those kind of areas i cant say there would be many refugees living there or asylum seekers either.

How can a community such as Gleadless get together when nearly all of the communnity leave withing a year or so, or are not able to even speak English.

You wouldn't imagine the amount of people round here who have said to me that they have never seen snow before, its not split areas, its almost split worlds if you ask me.

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In regards to Britain in Bloom (and I was arguing your comment was 'strange' in that you chose a very minor thing to illustrate a massive and unfortunate issue, perhaps I chose my word incorrectly) I say what I say because it is those sorts of areas that have a strong (mostly middle class female) community organisation that has time on its hands. While other areas have very strong community organisations I would argue that they don't have the major time investments needed for such a contest. That is only my (stereotyped?) opinion and you can feel free to differ.

 

I also am NOT arguing that any of this is a good thing. Quite the opposite in fact...

 

I don't wish to argue with you libertarian. I was raised in Dore and my parent's still live there, but I have seen the other side of the coin.

 

The community organisation statement was off mark in both directions. Do you not think that the "North" want to improve their surroundings? Time is not the issue. It is all down to finance.

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Well the further north you go it gets nearer to Barnsley whereas if you head south and make it through the refugee buffer zone of Lowedges/Batemoor you reach North Derbyshire (AKA Sanctuary).:hihi:

What's wrong with Barnsley ?

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So it seems this divide is actually between parts of the city where residents get organised and work hard to make good things happen, and parts where they sit on their sofas and complain about how unfair everything is. Shame on them!

 

I know this was tongue in cheek, but, NO... Certainly that is a gross over simplification and in many cases downright wrong. It is a multi part issue. Some of which are:

 

1) Certain areas are more affluent so fundraising is more likely to succeed

2) Some areas have more active neighbourhood committees/ committees with more time on their hands (due to being middle class and the second earner not being 'required', thereby (usually) 'she' has more time to devote). I'm sure that many of those in other areas would love to be in a position to devote as much time. It just isnt possible though.

3) Some areas have a worse anti social behaviour problem.

 

Unfortunately 1) and 3) nearly always correllate and 2) often does.

 

Whereupon the council/ voluntary bodies etc have the option of installing something nice in an area where it will be looked after/ matching funding is available.... or not. Which do they chose? The easy option all too often.

 

What is the solution? Sort out the underlying problems but as i said before I'm not holding my breath.

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I don't wish to argue with you libertarian. I was raised in Dore and my parent's still live there, but I have seen the other side of the coin.

 

The community organisation statement was off mark in both directions. Do you not think that the "North" want to improve their surroundings? Time is not the issue. It is all down to finance.

 

Of course 'the north' does, but as per my previous comment it is at a maor disadvantage when trying to do it. And yes I agree finance IS an issue (see above)

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