Mitchell Road /Abbey Lane Jct

[WallBuilder]

I'd like to see a few examples of the green wave road idea and don't think it'd be too good an idea through Woodseats. Most of the shoppers appreciate the fact that there are now several crossings as this is obviously safer for pedestrians and stops jay walking.

All roads have to carry far greater amounts of traffic than say twenty years ago so it's not really suprising that the roads are congested. I don't have an answer that's going to suit everyone and so think councils sometimes get blamed unfairly.

[Captain_Scarlet]

Why can't people just accept the fact that residents of residential roads do not like or want a constant stream of cars pootling past their house.

I can think of other quiet roads that are becoming rat runs and so assume this trend to push cars back on to major arterial routes is just going to increase.

I don't remember there being a huge noise when Gatefield road and Gen road? were turned into one way so is this a sign that car drivers are getting more inconsiderate and not caring two hoots about residential area's being quiet and safe.

Glen and Gatefield Road form part of a loop, Marshall and Mitchell do not. Access to Sandford Grove is maintained with access from Glen or Marden and leaving it via Marden and Gatefield.

blocking Mitchell and Marshall means access to this entire side of Woodseats is imply becoming a pain.

To answer you wink Wallbuilder, I'd much prefer if Glen and Gatefield Road were reopen for two way traffic and that the island on Sandford Road removed. Unlike other residents, I'd prefer if people can drive pass my house unhindered rather than getting lost in a one way street system.

I'd like to see a few examples of the green wave road idea and don't think it'd be too good an idea through Woodseats. Most of the shoppers appreciate the fact that there are now several crossings as this is obviously safer for pedestrians and stops jay walking.

All roads have to carry far greater amounts of traffic than say twenty years ago so it's not really suprising that the roads are congested. I don't have an answer that's going to suit everyone and so think councils sometimes get blamed unfairly.

considering the pedestrian signals in Woodseats haven't been working since the day they were installed and are too numerous I doubt many pedestrians or drivers appreciate them. I hate having to cross it by foot and traverse it by car, they are useless, a bit like planners.

 

Green waves are useless if they are timed on reduced speeds, it's a waste of time.

[WallBuilder]

The pelican crossings in Woodseats are appreciated by a great many folk, I know I'm one of them and I know plenty of locals who have expressed an opinion.

I remember all too clearly the time before glen and Gatefield were altered and the sheer amount of traffic trying to use them as a way of getting off Sheldon road. The fender benders and the amount of irritated horn blasts as cars tried to pull out of these roads to turn right is memorable.

 

I'd agree the lights at the junction of Abbey Lane and Meadowhead do need looking at which I thought the present council have agreed to dobut as I've alrready stated with the increase in car ownership on an ever increasing climb then problems with congestion are going to simply get worse regardless as to whatever the planners try to do to solve the problem.

People just love using their cars whether that be to ferry the kids to school and back or pop out for a few groceries, they don't like car sharing, park and ride, bus lanes or anything else that seems to restrict there desire to be able to drive everywhere.

Are there any rreal solutions to the under-lying problem?

[Planner1]

I'd like to see a few examples of the green wave road idea and don't think it'd be too good an idea through Woodseats. Most of the shoppers appreciate the fact that there are now several crossings as this is obviously safer for pedestrians and stops jay walking.

All roads have to carry far greater amounts of traffic than say twenty years ago so it's not really suprising that the roads are congested. I don't have an answer that's going to suit everyone and so think councils sometimes get blamed unfairly.

 

Councils have had the capaity for "green waves" for many years and as far as I'm aware there has never been any instruction to Councils not to use them or to unnecessarily delay traffic. I worked in Sheffield's Urban Traffic Control group for 17 years so I do know quite a bit about this subject.

 

Green waves sound very nice in theory, but in practice they are very difficult to achieve. There are too many variables over longer distances to get the benefits consistently. You also need significant resources in terms of staff and equipment, which all cost money that Councils do not have.

 

The context of the article mentioned was NATA (New Approach to Transport Assessment) which is the method which the Government uses to express the benefits of major transport schemes in terms of money, so they can assess whether they should be funded. This has no relevance at all to the day to day operation of traffic signal systems, so I don't expect to see anything much come of it. NATA has always been riddled with strange contraditions and this is part of an ongoing process of refining it. There has also been another tweak to it to overcome the problem that sustanable transport schemes which involve walking or cycling and reduce reliance on cars didn't score well because they reduce the amount of fuel duty the Government receives.

 

Councils already have a duty to actively manage their highway networks and reduce congestion. However, there is a limited amount which can be done on highway networks which are over-saturated with traffic at peak times.Basically, what can be done, within the resources available is already being done.

 

South Yorkshire have been quite successful in terms of meeting congestion targets (which are usually about managing the growth of congestion, not reducing it in absolute terms) and have regualrly received reward payments from the Government in recent years.

[Jack_Russell]

It's blocked off, and will be until further notice, to prevent traffic entering Mitchell Road, it still possible to leave Mitchell Road and enter Abbey Lane.

 

as a resident of Mitchell Road I can say that I completely agree with this scheme. the road became gridlocked on may occasions and idiots are constantly speeding down here ( away from Abbey lane ) it had become very unpleasant. the road is not wide enough to cope with these ridiculous volumes of traffic. In fact the tarmac is falling apart now as well.

 

I also think the council scheme on Chesterfield road, where they have made the road narrower, is a complete farce and should be completely removed.

 

Finally the signs at Meadowhead direct City Centre traffic down Chesterfield road, causing massive gridlock around Morrisons, instead of using other routes such as the Ring road.

 

I agree 100%...myself and other residents have been asking for something similar on Hackthorn, Broxholme, Aisthorpe and Nettleham roads, all used to avoid the Scarsdale Road/Chesterfield road junction.

 

We have cars parked on both sides here, and you get the usual idiots who just can't get there quick enough and decide to drive like its the grand prix.

 

Any help from planner1 as to who we need to contact to get something done would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers Jack

[Planner1]

Any help from planner1 as to who we need to contact to get something done would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers Jack

 

I've sent a message to a contact at Sheffield Council. I'll find out who's best to talk to and get back to you with a pm.

 

It's very useful in these instances to get support from your local Councillors, there are three of them and you can find out who they are from the Council's website. You could also speak to the Cabinet Member for sustainable Development and Transport, that's Ian Aukland. You can get email and phone contact details for Councillors from the Council website.

 

There's also the Council's Area Panel, but these are being replaced by Community Assemblies.

 

You could also get support from your MP, but my experience is that they are of limited use in local issues like this.

[Dizzyblonde]

Having Mitchell Road closed (or more specifically more roads closed) will just make me shop elsewhere. If I can not easily park my car, and it is a 25 min walk for me to woodseats will just make me go elsewhere. I'll just go to the Tesco park and ride instead.

[Streetfarce]

Having Mitchell Road closed (or more specifically more roads closed) will just make me shop elsewhere. If I can not easily park my car, and it is a 25 min walk for me to woodseats will just make me go elsewhere. I'll just go to the Tesco park and ride instead.

 

Nice One !

 

I'm fed up of fat scrubbers parking their clapped out Escorts outside my house, blocking my drive and dripping oil everywhere. Go to Tesco and squander your benefits there

[Milly658]

Sorry to bring this up... again! I need some information if anyone has got any. I did start a previous post about this, prior to the exit only signs - but this post is more updated than mine! I was against closure of the road, as it limited entry and exit routes from my house to Abbey Lane, nonetheless I wasn't opposed to it being 'one-way.' This road does not have the space for passing cars - especially when there are residential parked cars. So, to make it one-way seemed a better solution for everyone than to close it off entirely.

 

Today, however, I was driving down Mitchell Road to Abbey Lane, with another car in front of me, and we both had to stop whilst a woman (I believe was a resident) turned her vehicle round. She had to pull into an empty space in order for us to pass. The driver of the car infront stopped at the side of her and told her it was a one-way street to which she replied "No it's not one-way, it's just no entry."

 

Now excuse my ignorance, but wasn't the point of putting the no entry signs up was to create a one-way system from the junction of Bromwich Road to Abbey Lane? If not, then what was the point of it all? Had there been no parking spaces for her manoeuvre into, we'd all have been stuck in the middle of the road.

 

Can anyone please confirm this for me - before I go mental?

 

Thanks

[muddycoffee]

Very Simple

 

The residents of the mitchel road area are concerned that since the traffic lights were installed at the junction of Abbey Lane & Meadowhead/Chesterfield Road the roads round mitchel have become a rat run. The roads are narrow due to parked cars and speeding traffic is causing problems especialy with parked cars and children crossing the roads, threfore a 1 way system as been proposed

 

As I said earlier this as been the subejct of various threads and its the locals who have sujested this remember streetforce are only the contractor it is the highway authroity ie SMDC who do the planning consultation etc

 

As a resident in this area, I can confirm that there are to my knowledge no children living in that rat run at all. Which is Mitchell road then first right and down bromwich road to rejoin chesterfield road.

Although there is a baby who wouldn't be walking about yet.

 

I don't believe that anyone would go as far as Holmhirst road to rejoin chesterfield road, because the junction is much more congested and it takes much longer to get out in the rush hour. There is usually a line of cars waiting to get out.