Pubs closing down in Sheffield area megathread

[goldenfleece]

Despite the credit crunch, pubs are still being refurbished and spruced up....the Fox and Duck in broomhill has benefited from a full interior redec after being shut for 4 days.....went in last night and it was much improved.....add to that the Summer refit of the Nottingham house which is very fresh, and complete interior refurb of The York coming very shortly

[Ousetunes]

My wife and I enjoyed Wednesday afternoon in the Notty. It does feel nice and fresh and the gaffer's a top bloke too.

 

We actually went there from The Place whose menus now state that kids eat free (or something of that nature). I never knew kids were allowed on the premises. (We were without the children so appreciated the kid-free environment!)

 

I will pop my head into the F & D next time. Strangely, I was disappointed with their Magnet the last time I went in. Hope it was just the end of the barrel!

[goldenfleece]

My wife and I enjoyed Wednesday afternoon in the Notty. It does feel nice and fresh and the gaffer's a top bloke too.

 

I will pop my head into the F & D next time. Strangely, I was disappointed with their Magnet the last time I went in. Hope it was just the end of the barrel!

 

The Fox had 2 quite superb real ales on I had last night which i have now forgotten the names of...due to several pints....and then just a few more......market research of course:hihi:

 

yes the Landlord of the Notty is a very decent chap...someone who really does care about the pub too....

[goldenfleece]

Thirty-six pubs are closing every week. More than half the villages of England are now "dry" for the first time since the Norman Conquest and sales of beer in the pubs that are surviving are at the lowest level since the Great Depression. Last week Camra reported that it expected a "bloodbath" of pub closures following the traditionally busy Christmas period. It predicts 7,500 pubs to vanish by 2012.

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/3491216/One-in-eight-pubs-could-close-over-next-three-years-as-recession-bites.html

[sierraman]

Getting off subject slightly, but where is the Haha bar in Sheffield. Got to pick the wife up from there on Thursday night?

[shane39]

A lot of local pubs have closed due to the influx of Ethnic minorities,who have saturated certain estates in Sheffield.

This is not a dig at them but,Muslims don't drink.

So a lot of mainly whites who lived on these estates move away thus bringing about the pub's demise.This is certainly evident in Cities such as Bradford and smaller Towns throughout all of Yorkshire.

[Ousetunes]

A lot of local pubs have closed due to the influx of Ethnic minorities,who have saturated certain estates in Sheffield.

This is not a dig at them but,Muslims don't drink.

So a lot of mainly whites who lived on these estates move away thus bringing about the pub's demise.This is certainly evident in Cities such as Bradford and smaller Towns throughout all of Yorkshire.

 

I live in Lodge Moor and there aren't many ethnics up here, (certainly not compared to other suburbs of Sheffield).

 

Within a few miles witness this:

 

The Norfolk Arms at Rivelin. Closed down, in ruins and looking unlikely to reopen;

The King's Head at Crosspool. Closed down and demolished years ago;

The Bell Hagg. cf Norfolk Arms

Shiny Sheff. Recently re-opened but the signs are not promising;

The Bull's Head - up for lease;

The Plough - ditto.

 

Explain how the ethnic makeup of the region has lead to these instances. It's simpler than that: people aren't entering pubs anymore. Whether that be because of the price of a pint or the fact that they cannot smoke or maybe there are a hundred other things folk could be doing at home or elsewhere?

 

People have less disposable income; drinking at home is far cheaper (though IMO not that same as going out); there's multi-channel television, surround sound TV and DVD, computer games and the like. There are cinemas to go to, bowling alleys, restaurants and so on.

 

The pub is no longer the only place to go for a night out.

 

I'm 39 and I honestly believe that a generation beneath me simply chose not to follow my own and older generations into pubs. I love pubs, love going out and still get out as often as I can.

 

But there's no doubt about it: the pub as we know it - or knew it - is finished.

[theripsaw]

Getting off subject slightly, but where is the Haha bar in Sheffield. Got to pick the wife up from there on Thursday night?

 

 

Peace Gardens

[RiffRaff]

A certain Dronfield pub is just about to gain the third landlord in a little over six months.

Went in a few weeks ago - during landlord #2's reign - to find that we were the only customers. Not unusual, apparently. The landlord had been moaning about the clientele - or lack of - to other publicans in the area.

We were served in complete silence, before he wandered to the other end of the bar, ploughing his way through a bag of crisps, to watch some inane programme showing on the (overloud) TV. Frankly, it was switched on for his entertainment, not ours.

No chat, no idle banter of any sort.....just one word answers to our attempts at conversation.

Quite simply, the wrong person in the wrong job. No personality to speak of, so I suspect that he (originally) thought that the trade would just walk in, he'd pull the requested pint and count his pennies later.

The place was grubby, and smelt of something I couldn't quite identify....disinfectant of a sort, but not quite right.......

One pint down us, we prepared to leave....and it was then that his two puppies were ushered into the bar, allowed down from the living quarters.

Conclusion?

It's not just the smoking ban; it's not just bar prices; it's not just changing trends; a lot of it is down to the landlord, and their suitability to keep a good house.....

[Ousetunes]

Quite simply, the wrong person in the wrong job. No personality to speak of, so I suspect that he (originally) thought that the trade would just walk in, he'd pull the requested pint and count his pennies later.

The place was grubby, and smelt of something I couldn't quite identify....disinfectant of a sort, but not quite right.......

One pint down us, we prepared to leave....and it was then that his two puppies were ushered into the bar, allowed down from the living quarters.

Conclusion?

It's not just the smoking ban; it's not just bar prices; it's not just changing trends; a lot of it is down to the landlord, and their suitability to keep a good house.....

 

Good post.

 

I've been a pub goer for 25 years (going as far back to the bottle of Shandy and a packet of crisps sat in the car). Pubs back then were totally different to what they are now. Along with the strictly no children policy, windows that you couldn't see through and restricted opening hours, there was always a landlord, landlady or manager on the premises and most often 'front of house'.

 

We shared a love/hate relationship, us on this side of the bar being aware that we were being watched but secretly admiring the gaffer, and he on that side of the bar happy with our custom so long as we behaved. Once in a while we'd be on 'yellow cards', given a verbal warning, but many another occasion upon leaving the premises I'd hear a shout 'fancy a quick half, Dave' from the gaffer sat quietly at the end of the bar.

 

He kept a good house; we, by our general behaviour (no, we weren't saints) helped him do so. In short, we understood the values of respect.

 

Enter a pub these days and you can't distinguish the gaffer from a punter. That's if they're on the premises at all and haven't gone out leaving the running of the pub to some frankly, bored, uninterested youngster. And yes, some of the pubs are scruffy - one in York used to be my favourite haunt (a well-established John Smith's house on Museum Street - finest pint of John Smith's in my life once upon a time). Last time I went the place was a shambles, run by a young kid in scruffy dreadlocks. Did it scream 'come back?' No, it made my mind up to forget that I ever loved the place.

 

You know a good pub by the brief conversation one makes or receives upon entering and ordering. It brightens up any day and makes you want to go there again.

 

A 'that'll be two pound fifty' and the sound of the money being thrown in the till, with absolutely no other conversation simply will not do.