Fabio capellos first match

[scottf]

10 goals out of 22 appearances so far, course he is one of the best strikers in the world!! I'm not trying to sabotage England team, I just think if Walcott and Abonglahor were teamed up they would make a good strike partnership. You have to play a player to prove him and he is doing well for under 21's. It's not like England have any important matches in the near future so now is an ideal time to do it. Football is like any other team sport, you need to score goals/points to win so IMO the strikers are the base from which to work from.

 

but rooney is a far far far far better striker than him- so on what grounds do you think he should be dropped- he ran around like a silly bugger last night and played excellent apart from being a little wasteful in his shots.

[Baz1]

Same old England I thought. No adventure- No style. We need a bit of class and some good young hungry strikers.

[Heyesey]

but rooney is a far far far far better striker than him- so on what grounds do you think he should be dropped- he ran around like a silly bugger last night and played excellent apart from being a little wasteful in his shots.

 

He can play like God for all the difference it makes - you don't get any credit for being impressive. If the ball doesn't go in the net, you're no good.

[NEKRO138]

Well that would be because the english premiership only has 38% english players.

 

 

If we want the best league in the world on our doorstep it has to come at a price and im afraid that means having a shi* national team.

 

Yeah that's pretty much my point. People have high expectations of England because of the high standard of the Premier League.

[LFCMadPaul]

Watching the match last night there were some poor individual performences,Gerrard did nothing for the first 60 mins but pass the ball into noman's land & he ran around like a headless chicken.

It's true Gerrard was not the MOTM but he was certainly one of Englands better performers on the night Tosh. You say he 'ran around like a headless chicken' and 'passed the ball into no-mans-land' but that is part of a midfielders job - working hard and passing the ball!

You then mention Rooney below!

Rooney would have made a better captain as the lad ran his heart out.

Oh so Rooney ran his heart out? Not 'ran around like a headless chicken'?

Rooney is a striker, and a strikers job is to score goals not just 'run around!

Atleast Gerrard was doing what is in his job description. Although playing quite well (as mentioned before) Rooney consistently fails to do what he is actually in the team for, and that is to score goals.

[LFCMadPaul]

Apart from maybe Bentley, not one of those England players could be considered to be the best player at their club team.

You have to consider the positions of each player though NEKRO to decide on if they are the best at their club or it is irelivent. For example:

 

James - Best Goalkeeper at his club? Yes.

 

Ferdinand - Best CB at his club? Yes.

 

Upson - Best CB at his club? Yes.

 

Gerrard - Best CM at his club? Yes.

 

Rooney - Best striker at his club? - Probably.

 

Anyway, don't we all repeat consistently that it's not about the 'star players' or the individuals within the English side, but instead being about the players that are chosen, to play as a unit, to play as a 'team'?

 

NEKRO, it doesn't matter a dot whether a player is considered to be a clubs best player - why should it?

[NEKRO138]

You have to consider the positions of each player though NEKRO to decide on if they are the best at their club or it is irelivent. For example:

 

James - Best Goalkeeper at his club? Yes.

 

Ferdinand - Best CB at his club? Yes.

 

Upson - Best CB at his club? Yes.

 

Gerrard - Best CM at his club? Yes.

 

Rooney - Best striker at his club? - Probably.

 

Anyway, don't we all repeat consistently that it's not about the 'star players' or the individuals within the English side, but instead being about the players that are chosen, to play as a unit, to play as a 'team'?

 

NEKRO, it doesn't matter a dot whether a player is considered to be a clubs best player - why should it?

 

I'm not saying they aren't good players, I'm just making the point that talent brought in from other countries is overshadowing the homegrown talent in the Premiership and I think it's having an adverse effect on the national side.

[LFCMadPaul]

Same old England I thought. No adventure- No style. We need a bit of class and some good young hungry strikers.

If not for injuries Micheal Owen would (and could still end up being) Englands best ever goalscorer. Owen (however much people slate him) nearly always scores when in an England shirt, so on that basis, surely when fit he should be Englands number one striker, either alongside Rooney or on his own?

[scottf]

If not for injuries Micheal Owen would (and could still end up being) Englands best ever goalscorer. Owen (however much people slate him) nearly always scores when in an England shirt, so on that basis, surely when fit he should be Englands number one striker, either alongside Rooney or on his own?

 

the question is- can he play with rooney?

[NEKRO138]

I'd be starting with Agbonlahor when he's fit. He is England's in form striker.