melthebell   864 #85 Posted November 29, 2007 I think 120 police officers were injured.  The role of the NF and BNP in provoking the riots should not be forgotten.[/QUOTE]  That's absolute rubbish. Even comentators on the left jeered at the notion. The BNP for a start were nowhere near and didn't even exist in Bradford at that time. The NF consisted of a few yobbos in one of the city centre bars who had no greater ambition on the day than to sit in a pub getting drunk.The Anti-nazi league went into volatile Asian areas and started leafletting local youth about a major NF march into their areas- a march which they knew wouldn't take place but might prove nevertheless a good recruitment opportunity for their parent organisation the socialist workers party. Not surprisingly in the event they managed to stir the asian youth up and who quickly got out of hand. The role of the ANL in stirring up local Asian youths for NF marches that never were [they had previous in this modus operandi] was even recognised by the local Asian MP who said it would be better for all concerned if they [the ANL] would just push off. no BNP around in bradford in 2001?????????? well seen as the BNP has been going since the 80s i very much doubt that statement. i very much doubt the validity of the rest too tbh.......eeee the art of spin for your own cause and way of thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
NEKRO138 Â Â 10 #86 Posted November 29, 2007 I'll say this for Morrisey. Â He didn't like it, so he left. Â Something that everyone can do if they don't like it. Â Granted, they probably can't live like a king in Rome, but there are other places to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #87 Posted November 29, 2007 do as the romans do.......move to rome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
liberty boy   10 #88 Posted November 29, 2007 no BNP around in bradford in 2001?????????? well seen as the BNP has been going since the 80s i very much doubt that statement. i very much doubt the validity of the rest too tbh.......eeee the art of spin for your own cause and way of thinking  then give me some evidence.  Otherwise you can just trumpet any cr*p, and just call it your supposition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #89 Posted November 29, 2007 Are you a Morrisey fan then, liberty boy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Kthebean   10 #90 Posted November 29, 2007 Thats funny actually because I once left England because of Morrisey...  *gets coat* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wildcat   10 #91 Posted November 29, 2007 then give me some evidence.  Otherwise you can just trumpet any cr*p, and just call it your supposition.  It only took a moment to find some evidence, for you.  BNP member Steve Barkham told reporter Jason Gwynne how he kicked and punched a man during the 2001 Bradford riots. (Ref) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
liberty boy   10 #92 Posted November 29, 2007 I think 120 police officers were injured.  The role of the NF and BNP in provoking the riots should not be forgotten.[/QUOTE]  That's absolute rubbish. Even comentators on the left jeered at the notion. The BNP for a start were nowhere near and didn't even exist in Bradford at that time. The NF consisted of a few yobbos in one of the city centre bars who had no greater ambition on the day than to sit in a pub getting drunk.The Anti-nazi league went into volatile Asian areas and started leafletting local youth about a major NF march into their areas- a march which they knew wouldn't take place but might prove nevertheless a good recruitment opportunity for their parent organisation the socialist workers party. Not surprisingly in the event they managed to stir the asian youth up and who quickly got out of hand. The role of the ANL in stirring up local Asian youths for NF marches that never were [they had previous in this modus operandi] was even recognised by the local Asian MP who said it would be better for all concerned if they [the ANL] would just push off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wildcat   10 #93 Posted November 29, 2007  That's absolute rubbish. Even comentators on the left jeered at the notion. The BNP for a start were nowhere near and didn't even exist in Bradford at that time. The NF consisted of a few yobbos in one of the city centre bars who had no greater ambition on the day than to sit in a pub getting drunk.The Anti-nazi league went into volatile Asian areas and started leafletting local youth about a major NF march into their areas- a march which they knew wouldn't take place but might prove nevertheless a good recruitment opportunity for their parent organisation the socialist workers party. Not surprisingly in the event they managed to stir the asian youth up and who quickly got out of hand. The role of the ANL in stirring up local Asian youths for NF marches that never were [they had previous in this modus operandi] was even recognised by the local Asian MP who said it would be better for all concerned if they [the ANL] would just push off.  You said all that before.  ANL are responsible for creating race tensions by leafletting about the far right, but BNP council candidate Dave Midgley squirting dog faeces through the letterbox of an Asian takeaway, was presumably an act of welcoming integration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
liberty boy   10 #94 Posted November 29, 2007 It only took a moment to find some evidence, for you. BNP member Steve Barkham told reporter Jason Gwynne how he kicked and punched a man during the 2001 Bradford riots. (Ref)  It only took a moment to find some evidence, for you. BNP member Steve Barkham told reporter Jason Gwynne how he kicked and punched a man during the 2001 Bradford riots. (Ref)  look up The day the ANL-NF pantomime horse bolted', Red Action Bulletin, 9th July 2001.  the Asian MP i believe was Marsha Sing who said it was the end for the ANL  Steve Barkham was plied with drink, do you hang on every word of drunks when they talk about the fights they've been in? I was in Bradford in the nineties and there was no BNP that i knew of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
liberty boy   10 #95 Posted November 29, 2007  You said all that before.  ANL are responsible for creating race tensions by leafletting about the far right, but BNP council candidate Dave Midgley squirting dog faeces through the letterbox of an Asian takeaway, was presumably an act of welcoming integration?  get you dates right you're now talking about 2004. the riots were in 2001?  Christ you're obviously a person impressed by what drunks say.You need to get out more. Did the police even bother charging that guy?  The head of the Bradford BNP was an infiltrator running a rogue branch. he turned away decent people and courted lunatics who no organsiation would have given the time of day to. He then invited in secret cameras to film the idiots and they were then held up as examples of the BNP membership. so that whole exercise proves what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #96 Posted November 29, 2007 alledgedly why the riots started http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_Riot http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/UK/07/09/riots.analysis/index.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/roots/2001.stm  why does the bnp keep coming up time and time again if they wernt in bradford during 2001? http://info.interactivist.net/article.pl?sid=04/07/22/1258228 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...