Sheffield City Centre's Bus Gate? (Arundel Gate)

[Grumpycatweasel 83]

14 hours ago, Planner1 said:

If you want to get personal, I might equally ask why you are prone to gross exaggeration? ( and while we’re at it, why you deliberately miss spell).

 

My politics are none of your business, but I’ll tell you this much, I have never voted Tory ( yes that’s how you spell it) and never will. 
 

A £35 fine is “vilification”? Give us a break.  It’s just a mild reminder to do it right in future. 

for the majority of drivers the new signage wasn't on a theory test 

 

Instead of drivers looking at the road for safety they now have to read and instantly understand road signs made to confuse people into paying a substantial fine 

 

 

 

 

[SheffieldForum 957]

4 minutes ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

for the majority of drivers the new signage wasn't on a theory test 

 

Instead of drivers looking at the road for safety they now have to read and instantly understand road signs made to confuse people into paying a substantial fine 

 

 

 

 

You do know it is a driver's obligation to keep up with any changes to the Highway Code or relevant laws, as part of your license?

 

Maybe drivers should have to re-sit their test every five years or so to ensure knowledge and compliance with current laws?

[RollingJ 2,058]

4 minutes ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

for the majority of drivers the new signage wasn't on a theory test 

 

Instead of drivers looking at the road for safety they now have to read and instantly understand road signs made to confuse people into paying a substantial fine 

 

 

 

 

A sign is a sign - do they all have to be on a 'theory' test?  As a point of interest, there are also BIG road markings that say 'BUS GATE'.

[Grumpycatweasel 83]

36 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

A sign is a sign - do they all have to be on a 'theory' test?  As a point of interest, there are also BIG road markings that say 'BUS GATE'.

 

I'm not playing a game, all i'm asking for is access to roads i pay for in my road tax & easy to understand signs 

 

why should i have to pay a fine? nobody is harmed its a simple misunderstanding a wrong turn so to speak why should i be instantly villified 

 

 

36 minutes ago, SheffieldForum said:

You do know it is a driver's obligation to keep up with any changes to the Highway Code or relevant laws, as part of your license?

 

Maybe drivers should have to re-sit their test every five years or so to ensure knowledge and compliance with current laws?

driver don't have to re-sit anything

[RollingJ 2,058]

1 minute ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

 

I'm not playing a game, all i'm asking for is access to roads i pay for in my road tax & easy to understand signs 

 

why should i have to pay a fine? nobody is harmed its a simple misunderstanding a wrong turn so to speak why should i be instantly villified 

 

 

 

I never said you were 'playing a game' , you don't pay 'road tax', and the signs all look easy to understand - to me.

If you think the fine is unjustified - appeal. The fact 'nobody is harmed is irrelevant, and you should observe the quite large signage.

[SheffieldForum 957]

There are signs aproaching the roundabout, signs coming off the roundabout, signs between the roundabout and the casino junction, signs just after the casino junction, road markings on the approach to the bus gate, a huge sign showing the turning route, signs at the bus gate.

 

If somebody misses a sign, then I can understand there might be something wrong with it... if somebody misses all these signs then it is on them.

[HeHasRisen 3,412]

1 hour ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

for the majority of drivers the new signage wasn't on a theory test 

 

Instead of drivers looking at the road for safety they now have to read and instantly understand road signs made to confuse people into paying a substantial fine 

 

 

 

 

What absolute rubbish.

 

By the same token, at the time I was learning to drive, and during the test, I wasnt allowed to drive on a motorway. So are you saying I shoul;d know nothing about how to drive on a motorway?

[AndrewC 310]

23 minutes ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

roads i pay for in my road tax

BINGO

[YorkieontheTyne 205]

1 hour ago, SheffieldForum said:

You do know it is a driver's obligation to keep up with any changes to the Highway Code or relevant laws, as part of your license?

 

Maybe drivers should have to re-sit their test every five years or so to ensure knowledge and compliance with current laws?

That’s how it is now with PCV and HGV drivers. They have to undertake 35 ongoing training in every 5 year period.

[YorkieontheTyne 205]

Just now, YorkieontheTyne said:

That’s how it is now with PCV and HGV drivers. They have to undertake 35 ongoing training in every 5 year period.

That should have read 35 hours.

[Planner1 439]

3 hours ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

for the majority of drivers the new signage wasn't on a theory test 

 

Instead of drivers looking at the road for safety they now have to read and instantly understand road signs made to confuse people into paying a substantial fine 

 

 

 

 

What “new” signage? Bus lane / gate signs have been around for decades.

 

As others point out, it’s your responsibility as a driver to keep up to date with the rules of the road and any changes to signs / markings. They are in the Highway Code, which you can access for free online.

 

If you can’t read the signs and drive safely, maybe you should hand your license in ( if you have one).

 

As previously mentioned, I don’t think anyone would see £35 as a “substantial” fine. The amounts ( set by government ) haven’t changed for many years  and aren’t as much of a deterrent as they used to be. In London, they are much higher.

[Planner1 439]

2 hours ago, Grumpycatweasel said:

 

I'm not playing a game, all i'm asking for is access to roads i pay for in my road tax & easy to understand signs 

Paying your “Road tax” just entitles you to not be prosecuted for not paying it.

 

The money goes into the general taxation pot and could be spent on anything the government funds.

 

Amazing how millions of motorists seem to get around just fine using the signs provided.

 

If you don’t like the currently available signs, let the government know. Let us know how you get on….