Organgrinder 1,946 #13 Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, El Cid said: It is really difficult to criticise Russia for invading Ukraine, if we are ok with Israel expanding into Palestine. How do we stay on the right side, do we just blindly stick with the USA? They helped us in the last war, but it will be complicated if Trump gets elected and withdraws from Ukraine We had been fighting WW2 for 2 years and 3 months before the USA joined in. Had it not been for Pearl Harbour, would they have joined in at all ? If Trump gets elected, he won't go to war for us. Edited November 5, 2023 by Organgrinder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY 3,477 #14 Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Longcol said: Which is why it would be helpful to link to your source, I accept that👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 607 #15 Posted November 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: I accept that👍 Thanks - appreciated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Martin C 85 #16 Posted November 5, 2023 Obviously appreciate (and understand) that there are complex issues in the areas concerned. Having said that the current difficulties could have been averted/mimised if:- (a) Russia hadn't illegally invaded Ukraine (b) Hamas hadn't stupidly & illegally 'done their terrorist thing' on 7th October. What you reap you sow (personal opinion of course). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad 3,986 #17 Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, The_DADDY said: New Alliances are being formed, and old ones broken. American Troops and assets are being deployed in the middle east with US boots already on the ground and carrier groups already in the region. Ukraine and Russia still doing their thing. Russia isn't making threats (but really they are) about the hypersonic nuclear missiles its planes carry and would use if 'provoked'. America testing new nukes themselves. Africa more or less turns its back on the west. Frances suggesting it may use military force in Niger. Britain sending assets to Ukraine, Kosovo and maybe even the middle east. China making deals with Russia and rattling its Saber over Taiwan (nothing new there though) The list goes on and on and on. Has WW3 already begun or am I just watching Threads too often? Your thoughts? Hope it dunt rain tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY 3,477 #18 Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Hope it dunt rain tomorrow. Afraid you might be out of luck Edited November 5, 2023 by The_DADDY 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hackey lad 3,986 #19 Posted November 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Afraid you might be out of luck Oh bugger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 607 #20 Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Oh bugger Nah - that's at worst a 50/50 chance of rain before tomorrow 1 in the afternoon, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lobster 54 #21 Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, The_DADDY said: That won't happen sadly. Expect Global Fresh water shortages in the coming years according to the wef which will be a nice little earner for the select few. I actually wrote a paper about that for uni nearly 50 years ago . It was about the American Annexation of Canada. Due to the American tendency to take natural resourses for granted and squander what they have ( Golf courses in a desert ) . Canada has an abundance of fresh water but I doubt they will give it to the Americans freely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,417 #22 Posted November 6, 2023 12 hours ago, The_DADDY said: New Alliances are being formed, and old ones broken. American Troops and assets are being deployed in the middle east with US boots already on the ground and carrier groups already in the region. Ukraine and Russia still doing their thing. Russia isn't making threats (but really they are) about the hypersonic nuclear missiles its planes carry and would use if 'provoked'. America testing new nukes themselves. Africa more or less turns its back on the west. Frances suggesting it may use military force in Niger. Britain sending assets to Ukraine, Kosovo and maybe even the middle east. China making deals with Russia and rattling its Saber over Taiwan (nothing new there though) The list goes on and on and on. Has WW3 already begun or am I just watching Threads too often? Your thoughts? I would say it's a case of 'if you have to ask, then it hasn't begun.' That's not to say we are not in a parlous position; we are. But that's a long way from a nuclear war. We've lived with nuclear weapons for over 70 years, and learned to treat them with respect. I'm hoping that holds true, but any sort of fanaticism is always going to be a particular danger. Which is why this situation is fraught to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders 2,874 #23 Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Anna B said: I would say it's a case of 'if you have to ask, then it hasn't begun.' That's not to say we are not in a parlous position; we are. But that's a long way from a nuclear war. We've lived with nuclear weapons for over 70 years, and learned to treat them with respect. I'm hoping that holds true, but any sort of fanaticism is always going to be a particular danger. Which is why this situation is fraught to say the least. I think it's inevitable Anna. More and more of these fanatical leaders will get their hands on nuclear weapons, there not daft, and have easy access to technology. In the not to distance future all these rogue states will have them. Germany thought they'd cracked it with the V2 rocket (Doodle Bug) and didn't hesitate to use them. Imagine if Adolph had nuclear weapons. The World is now a tinder box waiting to explode, probably not in my lifetime, I'll give it 10/15 years before Armageddon. I shall be at Hillsborough this Saturday with my Sandwich Board.. SEEK YE THE LORD... THE END IS NIGH... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,417 #24 Posted November 6, 2023 57 minutes ago, Padders said: I think it's inevitable Anna. More and more of these fanatical leaders will get their hands on nuclear weapons, there not daft, and have easy access to technology. In the not to distance future all these rogue states will have them. Germany thought they'd cracked it with the V2 rocket (Doodle Bug) and didn't hesitate to use them. Imagine if Adolph had nuclear weapons. The World is now a tinder box waiting to explode, probably not in my lifetime, I'll give it 10/15 years before Armageddon. I shall be at Hillsborough this Saturday with my Sandwich Board.. SEEK YE THE LORD... THE END IS NIGH... Oh dear Padders. For once I hope you're completely wrong. Keep the faith sunshine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...