The Yom Kippur War .

[harvey19 541]

43 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

I Said:

Everybody's lives matter.

To everybody except racists.

 

I didn't forget terrorists,  I never mentioned terrorists    -    You were the one who brought terrorists into it and then started on a rant.

I am still supporting the side who is abiding by the law,  whilst you are supporting the law breakers.

Tells you all you need to know about the anti-law faction that you support.

 

 

Wasn't it Hamas who broke the ceasefire and massacred 1400 innocent civilians and took 242 hostages of which 238 are still held captive.

Who are the law breakers.?

[RJRB 688]

6 hours ago, trastrick said:

Win/win! 

 

But I never rioted and looted, and ran through the the streets with a machete!

 

Well that’s one thing in your favour.

It hardly makes you exceptional though

[mafya 250]

6 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

Wasn't it Hamas who broke the ceasefire and massacred 1400 innocent civilians and took 242 hostages of which 238 are still held captive.

Who are the law breakers.?

Two wrongs don’t make a right, Israel  has lost any moral argument and all the world can see.
Innocent Jewish people will now be at risk due to the actions of Israel which is sad really as the repercussions for this situation will carry on for years.

More Palestinians have been killed in the last month then in the whole time the Ukraine and Russian situation has been going on according to the news.

Do you not think now it’s time to stop the blame game to try and justify illegal Israeli actions and instead admit what it has turned into?

[RJRB 688]

15 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

Wasn't it Hamas who broke the ceasefire and massacred 1400 innocent civilians and took 242 hostages of which 238 are still held captive.

Who are the law breakers.?

Both parties have and continue to break the rules of warfare.

Israel has broken International law for years by occupying Palestinians territory and until that is corrected by the International community then any lasting deal seems a distant proposition.

Israel has detained thousands of Palestinians held without trial so why do you think that leads to the taking of hostages?

 

 

6 hours ago, trastrick said:

You forgot terrorists who take women and children hostage and do terrible things to them.

 

Barbarian human debris.

 

Weird,

 

And you ignore the thousands of Palestinians held for years without trial.

Also weird

[harvey19 541]

23 minutes ago, mafya said:

Two wrongs don’t make a right, Israel  has lost any moral argument and all the world can see.
Innocent Jewish people will now be at risk due to the actions of Israel which is sad really as the repercussions for this situation will carry on for years.

More Palestinians have been killed in the last month then in the whole time the Ukraine and Russian situation has been going on according to the news.

Do you not think now it’s time to stop the blame game to try and justify illegal Israeli actions and instead admit what it has turned into?

I am not playing the blame game but answering Organgrinder who asked who were the law breakers.

If Israel say they are targeting military installations they will say their attacks are legal.

If the hostages were released the battles may end.

Like all wars it has turned into a dreadful situation where many have been killed and maimed.

Like in all conflicts most people do not want it and only want to live peaceful lives.

The only way forward in all these situations where countries/parties have historic conflicting views is to forget past real or perceived injustices and start again with clear objectives agreed by all.

Not taking sides just being objective .

[cressida 1,571]

2 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

I am not playing the blame game but answering Organgrinder who asked who were the law breakers.

If Israel say they are targeting military installations they will say their attacks are legal.

If the hostages were released the battles may end.

Like all wars it has turned into a dreadful situation where many have been killed and maimed.

Like in all conflicts most people do not want it and only want to live peaceful lives.

The only way forward in all these situations where countries/parties have historic conflicting views is to forget past real or perceived injustices and start again with clear objectives agreed by all.

Not taking sides just being objective .

All hostages Harvey?   They could be back to square one if there is one single gunshot or bomb.

[harvey19 541]

22 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Both parties have and continue to break the rules of warfare.

Israel has broken International law for years by occupying Palestinians territory and until that is corrected by the International community then any lasting deal seems a distant proposition.

Israel has detained thousands of Palestinians held without trial so why do you think that leads to the taking of hostages?

 

Could you enlighten me on the situation of Palestinians detained  by Israel please. Reasons why, where and how are they held as I am not aware of the details.

1 minute ago, cressida said:

All hostages Harvey?   They could be back to square one if there is one single gunshot or bomb.

Yes release all hostages, this could provide a catalyst for a ceasefire

[trastrick 866]

46 minutes ago, mafya said:

Two wrongs don’t make a right, Israel  has lost any moral argument and all the world can see.
Innocent Jewish people will now be at risk due to the actions of Israel which is sad really as the repercussions for this situation will carry on for years.

More Palestinians have been killed in the last month then in the whole time the Ukraine and Russian situation has been going on according to the news.

Do you not think now it’s time to stop the blame game to try and justify illegal Israeli actions and instead admit what it has turned into?

Millions have been killed in their own  inter-sectarian wars between the 31 or so, different varieties of Islamism.

 

These wars continue, in Islamic countries, and have nothing to do with Israel, or the West.

[Jack Grey 1,602]

Heres what the BBC, Channel 4 and The Guardian won't show you 🤔

 

 

 

[Organgrinder 1,946]

59 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

Wasn't it Hamas who broke the ceasefire and massacred 1400 innocent civilians and took 242 hostages of which 238 are still held captive.

Who are the law breakers.?

Yes,  it was Hamas who broke the ceasefire etc etc and broke the law and what Hamas did was beyond explanation for human beings.

So the lawbreakers are Hamas,  Israel,  UK,  USA   ad Russia is currently doing the same.,

Israel, UK and USA have been breaking the law for 70 years in the middle east.

 

Don't come with the worn old argument that id one breaks the law,  everyone who feels like it can also break the law.

That's not how the law works.  Not in this country and not internationally.

 

Would you allow your neighbour to take half of your garden and then claim half of the rooms in your house ?

Wouldn't you expect the law to back you up if this happened.

 

[trastrick 866]

40 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Both parties have and continue to break the rules of warfare.

More moral equivalency crapola from you lot!

 

Terrorists have no rules!

 

42 minutes ago, RJRB said:

And you ignore the thousands of Palestinians held for years without trial.

 

Terrorists, or prisoners of war? (Or gays and adulterous women?)

 

[Organgrinder 1,946]

6 minutes ago, trastrick said:

Millions have been killed in their own  inter-sectarian wars between the 31 or so, different varieties of Islamism.

 

These wars continue, in Islamic countries, and have nothing to do with Israel, or the West.

Highly surprising then,  that Israel is hated by every single one.

Get back to your history books lad.  most of us went to school in Heeley.