Sky Streamers 'Panic'.

[geared 321]

14 hours ago, Happ said:

This is about raids on the source of the streams - not those streaming. That will never ever happen.

It was supposedly about the users.

 

They busted a source/reseller and got a list of users, but no-one actually got raided.  I don't know if they even bothered going to visit anyone in person, was probably more a publicity thing.

Edited March 6, 2023 by geared

[Axe 836]

11 hours ago, leviathan13 said:

Like tackling online 'hate speech' and 'misgendering'?

Investigating burglaries is what I have in mind.  

[Happ 25]

1 hour ago, geared said:

It was supposedly about the users.

 

They busted a source/reseller and got a list of users, but no-one actually got raided.  I don't know if they even bothered going to visit anyone in person, was probably more a publicity thing.

As suggested, it will never ever happen. End users will never be targeted. Its just not possible to prove anything, even if admitted. 
 

We went through the same suggestions with downloading music etc - all the way back to Morpheus, Napster and e-donkey. Media piracy will always be consumed and its been proven it does not hurt the market to the extents they would like to believe. No-one will ever be a target for criminal proceedings for watching/listening to something they did not pay for. Its like suggesting you can be punished for listening to a pirate radio station.

 

And lets not get onto TV licensing.

[Waldo 96]

16 minutes ago, Happ said:

No-one will ever be a target for criminal proceedings for watching/listening to something they did not pay for.

I think you may be mistaken on that count, I believe individuals have been successfully prosecuted for such.

[XPertByExperien 167]

19 minutes ago, Happ said:

As suggested, it will never ever happen. End users will never be targeted. Its just not possible to prove anything, even if admitted. 
 

We went through the same suggestions with downloading music etc - all the way back to Morpheus, Napster and e-donkey. Media piracy will always be consumed and its been proven it does not hurt the market to the extents they would like to believe. No-one will ever be a target for criminal proceedings for watching/listening to something they did not pay for. Its like suggesting you can be punished for listening to a pirate radio station.

 

And lets not get onto TV licensing.

Actually, back in the mid 90s a friend of my cousin used to regularly get done for PS1 Pirating.

 

 

[HeHasRisen 3,412]

2 hours ago, geared said:

It was supposedly about the users.

 

They busted a source/reseller and got a list of users, but no-one actually got raided.  I don't know if they even bothered going to visit anyone in person, was probably more a publicity thing.

Anybody using a service where the streamer collects their personal data is an idiot.

[geared 321]

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

I think you may be mistaken on that count, I believe individuals have been successfully prosecuted for such.

Those were civil suits and not criminal prosecutions from what I believe.

 

Also has a very murky history, pretty sure one of the law firms running them over here ended up going to prison themselves?

[altus 540]

8 minutes ago, geared said:

Those were civil suits and not criminal prosecutions from what I believe.

 

Also has a very murky history, pretty sure one of the law firms running them over here ended up going to prison themselves?

Didn't some law firm share files and then prosecute people who downloaded them?

[geared 321]

1 minute ago, altus said:

Didn't some law firm share files and then prosecute people who downloaded them?

There was an American law firm that did that, they operated a honey pot scheme.

 

Commissioned porn to be made, which they owned the copyright to. 
Then setup file sharing computers to distribute it, in return they collected the IP address of the person who downloaded it.  

They started legal proceedings claiming breach of copyright.

 

Eventually they were done for racketeering, wire fraud and a bunch of related stuff.

One lawyer in the company got put away for 14 years

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law

 

I'm sure there was a UK equivalent, but can't remember the name.  It was probably 10 years ago now.

[Happ 25]

2 hours ago, XPertByExperien said:

Actually, back in the mid 90s a friend of my cousin used to regularly get done for PS1 Pirating.

 

 

How did this happen? What were they officially prosecuted for and in which court?

[XPertByExperien 167]

1 minute ago, Happ said:

How did this happen? What were they officially prosecuted for and in which court?

To be honest, I never did find out.

 

Although I would assume they were convicted of Piracy, selling PS1 games for a fiver a pop from a House in Wisewood as I recall.

 

 

[Happ 25]

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

I think you may be mistaken on that count, I believe individuals have been successfully prosecuted for such.

This must be well documented then. I think as Geared referenced above, I doubt they were criminal proceedings. The implications of going down that route would be never ending and have major consequences for the industries themselves.

 

Once its been uploaded to the internet, its free and accessible forever. Thats it and always will be. Ask Pamela Tommy.

1 minute ago, XPertByExperien said:

To be honest, I never did find out.

 

Although I would assume they were convicted of Piracy, selling PS1 games for a fiver a pop from a House in Wisewood as I recall.

 

 

Yes, they were “selling”. I am referring purely to the consumers. Selling or distributing, outside of peer to peer, is completely different.