Struggling With The Cost Of Living?

[fools 447]

1 minute ago, ads36 said:

yes.

Then you'd know he's actually 'done it', and was inviting the lefties to come see how it's done at a food bank he volunteers in.

[ads36 219]

The man's a liar.

you cannot believe a word he says.

 

Edited May 16, 2022 by ads36

[Anna B 1,414]

1 hour ago, fools said:

Going to have to avoid specifics on the advice of an imaginary Brief.

 

btw Anna, the 'tory toff' as you put it, used to work darn pit

My apologies, I didn't know that. 

[Rockers rule 673]

 

Do people need to have explained to them how to budget? or the art of cooking for a family?

Certainly looks like it. 

 

Once you have the ingredients of course you can produce a family meal for pennies. **

Our Grand parents did it so did our parents, so did we.

We had a large family & came from a large family, did we ever not have food on the table - NO.

Might of had a lot of scrambled egg 'n' chips or Tripe, onions & potato's done in't pressure cooker (in a white sauce) as a kid, but we never went hungry. Our kids have never gone hungry.

So what went wrong?

Convenience foods & the convenience food revolution.

I'm (hopefully) preaching to the converted.

Given the option of a stew made from all fresh ingredients, that if done right, you will have made enough to last at least two days, or shoving regurgitated Chicken in the shape of nuggets down your child's throat because its 'Convenient'.  

Obvious answer the healthy ingredient option every time.  ✔️

 

** you have to be pretty anal to start working out how the food on your plate equates to pennies.

bag o potatoes 89p  use the full bag & you can make a pan of mash as well.

Bag o carrots 40p again 1/2 a bag = 20p

Lets be extravagant shove some mushrooms in the equation 89p less than 1/2 a punnet  = 45p

Oxo cube s 12 for £1 use 2 = 16p .

Mince or chicken £1.89p a pack (Aldi)  

Forgot the onions, bag o onions 50p (Aldi) 3 of them (their only small) = 17p

add gas or electric x 2 hours 60p.

Total it up divide by 4 people divide by 2 because with any luck there should be enough for two days .

Grand total 57p (allowed a bit extra for the milk & butter int mash & the  compulsory splash of Henderson's 🤣

 

Grand total of 57p per person for 4 people for 2 days & not a Chicken nugget in sight 

Bags of nuts are available for those not into meat products.

 

Keep safe, enjoy your food, eat well  .

 

Final thought 

 

"What the Hell is 'Reformed' Scampi ❓   "

 

 

 

[Mister M 1,625]

I think that it's probably easier for a family to eat cheaper than it is for a single person.

I do find though that you need plenty of stuff in to begin with, like spices and herbs, if you're doing something like a paella.

Years ago, I worked in Leeds in a social project which sold cut price ingredients in poorer areas. There was certainly no shortage of knowledge in terms what to cook, how to cook it etc. Perhaps some of the younger clients lacked utensils & maybe ideas, but there was no shortage of common sense and ability.

[Anna B 1,414]

4 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

 

Do people need to have explained to them how to budget? or the art of cooking for a family?

Certainly looks like it. 

 

Once you have the ingredients of course you can produce a family meal for pennies. **

Our Grand parents did it so did our parents, so did we.

We had a large family & came from a large family, did we ever not have food on the table - NO.

Might of had a lot of scrambled egg 'n' chips or Tripe, onions & potato's done in't pressure cooker (in a white sauce) as a kid, but we never went hungry. Our kids have never gone hungry.

So what went wrong?

Convenience foods & the convenience food revolution.

I'm (hopefully) preaching to the converted.

Given the option of a stew made from all fresh ingredients, that if done right, you will have made enough to last at least two days, or shoving regurgitated Chicken in the shape of nuggets down your child's throat because its 'Convenient'.  

Obvious answer the healthy ingredient option every time.  ✔️

 

** you have to be pretty anal to start working out how the food on your plate equates to pennies.

bag o potatoes 89p  use the full bag & you can make a pan of mash as well.

Bag o carrots 40p again 1/2 a bag = 20p

Lets be extravagant shove some mushrooms in the equation 89p less than 1/2 a punnet  = 45p

Oxo cube s 12 for £1 use 2 = 16p .

Mince or chicken £1.89p a pack (Aldi)  

Forgot the onions, bag o onions 50p (Aldi) 3 of them (their only small) = 17p

add gas or electric x 2 hours 60p.

Total it up divide by 4 people divide by 2 because with any luck there should be enough for two days .

Grand total 57p (allowed a bit extra for the milk & butter int mash & the  compulsory splash of Henderson's 🤣

 

Grand total of 57p per person for 4 people for 2 days & not a Chicken nugget in sight 

Bags of nuts are available for those not into meat products.

 

Keep safe, enjoy your food, eat well  .

 

Final thought 

 

"What the Hell is 'Reformed' Scampi ❓   "

 

 

 

My grandmother and mother were both full time housewives, looking after the home and family, as were most  women before the 1970's/80's.  Then, although their ambitions were small and some worked only part time, my generation became the first generation of working wives and mothers.

 

The rise of convenience food arrived to help time poor working women get a meal on the table before 9 o clock at night. Maybe that's when it all went wrong. Women are now expected to work full time, even with small children, and climb the career ladder as well as looking after the home and family. It's hard. Try cooking a meal from scratch for a hungry family after a long day's work and long commute home, and that's not taking into account the thinking about it, the shopping for it, and the clearing up after it. Believe me it's the last thing you want to do with your evening after an exhausting day. Of course she's going to take a few shortcuts. 

 

And don't kid yourself that the other half does half the work. Studies have been done and it's been proved that that isn't the case. It's still the woman who generally does the lion's share. Yes there are exceptions. But the men 'help,' they don't take it on as their responsibility. Modern women are knackered. 

 

And the next generation are going to be even worse. They haven't learnt the basics of cooking at school, or in the home, so they are even less prepared.

 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Anna B

[fools 447]

Ooh please don't start blaming men for everything, there's enough misandry in the modern narrative as it is. Men do their share of chores or bringing home the bacon in most households. If they're not doing the cooking, they're doing something else to contribute

 

Roast meal, is 5 minutes effort to peel the veg, bang it in the oven. Bangers n mash on the hob, 20 minutes from start to finish. 10 minutes to wash up. It's no big deal.

 

The smartphone and proliferation of takeaway restaurants is the root of all evil, the future doesn't look bright, roads full of bikes, mopeds, cars and robots delivering pizza to obese diabetics with no money.

 

You don't need to learn any cooking at school, it's warming stuff up. Similarly, you don't need to teach budgeting, it's adding stuff up. People who don't do this are either a bit thick, immature, or lazy.

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2022 by fools

[Mister M 1,625]

26 minutes ago, fools said:

Ooh please don't start blaming men for everything, there's enough misandry in the modern narrative as it is. Men do their share of chores or bringing home the bacon in most households. If they're not doing the cooking, they're doing something else to contribute

 

Roast meal, is 5 minutes effort to peel the veg, bang it in the oven. Bangers n mash on the hob, 20 minutes from start to finish. 10 minutes to wash up. It's no big deal.

 

The smartphone and proliferation of takeaway restaurants is the root of all evil, the future doesn't look bright, roads full of bikes, mopeds, cars and robots delivering pizza to obese diabetics with no money.

 

You don't need to learn any cooking at school, it's warming stuff up. Similarly, you don't need to teach budgeting, it's adding stuff up. People who don't do this are either a bit thick, or lazy.

 

 

 

I disagree about not learning about cooking at school. 

First of all it's about being confident in preparing and cooking food etc. This is especially important because if you're on a very tight budget, you can't afford to experiment and get things wrong.

Yes things might seem easy to you, but preparing and cooking food isn't an innate art, it's a skill which has to be learned like any other.

I don't think people who struggle with this are thick and lazy. I'm sure there are things that many can do but you can't - would you like to be called thick and lazy?

 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Mister M

[fools 447]

You can't be serious. If you think it's normal for the average human to get to adulthood, and be unable to work out how to make mashed potatoes, there is little hope for humanity. What are the parents doing in that situation.

 

There is undoubtedly skill involved in fancy cuisine, but day to day meals is warming stuff up and chucking some salt on top.

Edited May 16, 2022 by fools

[Mister M 1,625]

10 minutes ago, fools said:

You can't be serious. If you think it's normal for the average human to get to adulthood, and be unable to work out how to make mashed potatoes, there is little hope for humanity. What are the parents doing in that situation.

 

There is undoubtedly skill involved in fancy cuisine, but day to day meals is warming stuff up and chucking some salt on top.

If it's that easy, how do you explain the popularity of books by Delia Smith and Jamie Oliver which go through the basics of cooking?

[fools 447]

Like nearly all cooking books, they end up on the bookshelf for show, never read, unwanted Christmas presents. Or in the unused breadmaker/sandwich toaster cupboard.

Edited May 16, 2022 by fools

[Mister M 1,625]

5 minutes ago, fools said:

Like nearly all cooking books, they end up on the bookshelf for show, never read, unwanted Christmas presents. Or in the unused breadmaker/sandwich toaster cupboard.

There's obviously a need for them, otherwise they wouldn't be written.