melthebell   864 #1081 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, butlers said: You do know it's not the sniffles ,I take it? Last I saw up to 20 percent with Covid had to have a hospital visit,and plenty who are admitted have permanent lung damage for rest of thier life,at enormous cost and kidney and heart and even brain damage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1082 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, butlers said: You do know it's not the sniffles ,I take it? Last I saw up to 20 percent with Covid had to have a hospital visit,and plenty who are admitted have permanent lung damage for rest of thier life,at enormous cost You got a link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #1083 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, onewheeldave said: Coronavirus mainly kills the vulnerable, who made up the majority of fatalities during the first wave, so there are now less people who are vulnerable, therefore less deaths. Maybe also the virus is mutating to something less serious, that does happen with viruses. a lot of the vunerable are also still shielding, guess what that is, yeah its a "lockdown" and who gives them it? people who might be asymptomatic but ok themselves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1084 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, melthebell said: and kidney and heart and even brain damage 20% of those infected get kidney and heart and even brain damage?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #1085 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Coronavirus mainly kills the vulnerable, who made up the majority of fatalities during the first wave, so there are now less people who are vulnerable, therefore less deaths. Maybe also the virus is mutating to something less serious, that does happen with viruses. You're another one wrongly reading "underlying health condition" as "at deaths door". 15 million people in England have a long term condition - do you want to kill them all off? Edited September 19, 2020 by Longcol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #1086 Posted September 19, 2020 As being overweight and diabetes are two of the conditions that are heavily implicated in the deaths ,theres a huge vunerable population out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #1087 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, onewheeldave said: 20% of those infected get kidney and heart and even brain damage?!? i never mentioned 20% but its a very well known side effect, which shocked me since i thought it was purely respiratory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1088 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, melthebell said: a lot of the vunerable are also still shielding, guess what that is, yeah its a "lockdown" and who gives them it? people who might be asymptomatic but ok themselves I've no problem with vulnerable people shielding [if they choose to, equally, if they choose not to, that's their decision]. It makes far more sense for the vulnerable to be in quaranteen, rather that everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #1089 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, onewheeldave said: I've no problem with vulnerable people shielding [if they choose to, equally, if they choose not to, that's their decision]. It makes far more sense for the vulnerable to be in quaranteen, rather that everyone. so youd rather they are imprisoned rather than the fit idiots that think theyre ok and can act selfishly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #1090 Posted September 19, 2020 Around 1 in every 5 people who are infected with COVID-19 develop difficulty in breathing and require hospital care. People who are aged over 60 years, and people who have underlying medical conditions such as diabetes, heart disease, respiratory disease or hypertension are among those who are at greater risk.  Again last I saw was 5 percent actually are admitted .  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #1091 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, onewheeldave said: I've no problem with vulnerable people shielding [if they choose to, equally, if they choose not to, that's their decision]. It makes far more sense for the vulnerable to be in quaranteen, rather that everyone. That's about 25% of the population of England, Where is the infrastrucure to ensure they get food deliveries etc? Who is going to do their jobs presuming they're not retired? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1092 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited)  2 minutes ago, Longcol said: That's about 25% of the population of England, Where is the infrastrucure to ensure they get food deliveries etc? Who is going to do their jobs presuming they're not retired? Where are you getting 25% from? Edited September 19, 2020 by onewheeldave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...