Longcol   604 #1069 Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: In addition to the recently mentioned highly negative consequences of lockdown [especially a new lockdown now that deaths are so very, very low]  And soon to climb rapidly now that infections are increasing exponentially.   7 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:  there is also the issue of selling our civil liberties down the river- do you want the kind of regime that China has to become the global norm?  We didn't have the "liberty" of avoiding the blackout in the blitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1070 Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Longcol said: And soon to climb rapidly now that infections are increasing exponentially.   We'll see. I'm betting they won't get that high.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #1071 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: We'll see. I'm betting they won't get that high.   They might not given that the majority of people are now very wary. If we went back to pre-lockdown behaviour they certainly would. Edited September 19, 2020 by Longcol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #1072 Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: We'll see. I'm betting they won't get that high.   you know it must be great being a conspiracy theorist, things are so easy, so basic, so simple, no thinking involved apart from a very small bit.  The main reason we dont have the infections, the deaths, and a lock down now, is because we had a lockdown, the reason why its generally been kept in chack is from mask wearing, handwashing and social distancing. The reason its going up is people not wearing masks, not social distancing, meeting in large groups and the masses going out, congregating. Until there is a vaccine thats the main issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1073 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, melthebell said: you know it must be great being a conspiracy theorist, things are so easy, so basic, so simple, no thinking involved apart from a very small bit.   I wouldn't know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. It also doesn't take much thinking to knee jerkedly label anyone who disagrees with aspects of the covid measures a conspiracy theorist. Just another form of ad hominem attack, and we know what that implies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #1074 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, onewheeldave said: I wouldn't know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. It also doesn't take much thinking to knee jerkedly label anyone who disagrees with aspects of the covid measures a conspiracy theorist. Just another form of ad hominem attack, and we know what that implies. and the rest of my post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1075 Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, melthebell said:   The main reason we dont have the infections, the deaths, and a lock down now, is because we had a lockdown, We do have the infections actually, just not the deaths.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #1076 Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, onewheeldave said: We do have the infections actually, just not the deaths.  not like post lockdown, and why dont we have the deaths? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1077 Posted September 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, melthebell said:  The reason its going up is people not wearing masks, not social distancing, meeting in large groups and the masses going out, congregating. Until there is a vaccine thats the main issues. Just infections going up, deaths are low. Possibly one reason more people are congregating is that they are aware that deaths are very low? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   604 #1078 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, onewheeldave said: We do have the infections actually, just not the deaths.  Nothing like in March / April.............remember we were only really testing hospital admissions then - we're testing a far greater proportion of the population these days - not enough - but far greater so it appears the number of infections is similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   261 #1079 Posted September 19, 2020 You do know it's not the sniffles ,I take it? Last I saw up to 20 percent with Covid had to have a hospital visit,and plenty who are admitted have permanent lung damage for rest of thier life,at enormous cost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #1080 Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, melthebell said: not like post lockdown, and why dont we have the deaths? Coronavirus mainly kills the vulnerable, who made up the majority of fatalities during the first wave, so there are now less people who are vulnerable, therefore less deaths. Maybe also the virus is mutating to something less serious, that does happen with viruses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...