Should our unemployed be forced to pick fruit?

[melthebell 865]

No need to bring it back, there are more slaves now than ever before in history.

on zero hours wage, minimum wage etc

[tzijlstra 11]

on zero hours wage, minimum wage etc

 

No genuine slaves, people forced into labour by other people.

[martin6 10]

People have mentioned forcing unemployed to pick fruit will lower wages, I would like to point out the £100bn welfare bill not including pensions nearly 10% of taxes is lowering everyone's wage anyway !

[*_ash_* 88]

original:

People have mentioned forcing unemployed to pick fruit will lower wages, I would like to point out the £100bn welfare bill not including pensions nearly 10% of taxes is lowering everyone's wage anyway !

 

 

Perhaps rather than unemployed be forced to pick fruit for this £100bn, a new idea of how better to distribute this money should be thought about.

 

new:

People have mentioned forcing unemployed to pick fruit will lower wages, I would like to point out the £100bn welfare bill not including pensions nearly 10% of taxes is lowering everyone's wage anyway !

 

 

Perhaps rather than unemployed be forced to pick fruit for this '£100bn', a new idea of how better to distribute this money should be thought about.

Edited December 4, 2016 by *_ash_*
benefit of Cyclone

[999tigger 10]

People have mentioned forcing unemployed to pick fruit will lower wages, I would like to point out the £100bn welfare bill not including pensions nearly 10% of taxes is lowering everyone's wage anyway !

 

Out of interest how much of that is unemployment benefits? Do you know?

[Bob Arctor 11]

Perhaps rather than unemployed be forced to pick fruit for this £100bn, a new idea of how better to distribute this money should be thought about.

 

Or if housing was more plentiful and cheaper the benefits bill would reduce. Or if neo-liberal economics was able to provide more reliable and better paid work.

[mafya 252]

People have mentioned forcing unemployed to pick fruit will lower wages, I would like to point out the £100bn welfare bill not including pensions nearly 10% of taxes is lowering everyone's wage anyway !

 

How much of this £100bn welfare bill is paid out for in work benefits?

Plenty of workers also claim benefits so maybe they should be forced to pick fruit on their days off eh?

[melthebell 865]

People have mentioned forcing unemployed to pick fruit will lower wages, I would like to point out the £100bn welfare bill not including pensions nearly 10% of taxes is lowering everyone's wage anyway !

 

so, adding an extra layer that erodes prospects even more is better? bearing in mind we already have low wages, and welfare benefits to top these up. you then want to erode them even more by forcing the unemployed to do jobs for even less when people could actually be employed doing these jobs (on admittedly low wages)

[Bob Arctor 11]

How much of this £100bn welfare bill is paid out for in work benefits?

Plenty of workers also claim benefits so maybe they should be forced to pick fruit on their days off eh?

 

And pensioners. Actually that's quite a chilling thought, I bet there is someone in a right wing think tank somewhere who has already had the idea of making people work for their pensions.

[melthebell 865]

How much of this £100bn welfare bill is paid out for in work benefits?

Plenty of workers also claim benefits so maybe they should be forced to pick fruit on their days off eh?

theyll be wanting to bring back the workhouses next with 12 hour days...and Gruel lol

[*_ash_* 88]

Or if housing was more plentiful and cheaper the benefits bill would reduce. Or if neo-liberal economics was able to provide more reliable and better paid work.

 

This is probably the best way to reduce people's outgoings.

 

Needs more though. Scraping housing benefits and in work benefits which put prices up would also need to be done.

 

Or if housing was more plentiful and cheaper the benefits bill would reduce. Or if neo-liberal economics was able to provide more reliable and better paid work.

 

Probably too late for this now. NMW and in work benefits and almost all Blair's policies have caused these problems.

[StarvingMe 10]

Anyone who has been unemployed for more than 6 month without medical reasons should be forced to do work, not unpaid work but work for their dole money.