runningman1 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 i meant generally not specifically:roll: Why would you comment about general red tape in a thread about grafitti in Sheffield? Seems an odd jump in topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 when any of these grafitti vandals are caught they should be made to clean it not only theirs but others as well every day for a year............but then we will have people sayin it infringes their human rights?? barmy I'm happy to inform you that there is no "right to spray graffitti" in the European Convention on Human Rights. The convention is Winston Churchill's legacy, being drafted by British civil servants in the aftermath of the second world war to enshrine the values and principles that are necessary in a democratic society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euroout23 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Why would you comment about general red tape in a thread about grafitti in Sheffield? Seems an odd jump in topic. sigh! i meant general red tape means councils have more to do and have more boxes to tick so have less time and money for some services:roll: ---------- Post added 19-05-2016 at 15:10 ---------- I'm happy to inform you that there is no "right to spray graffitti" in the European Convention on Human Rights. The convention is Winston Churchill's legacy, being drafted by British civil servants in the aftermath of the second world war to enshrine the values and principles that are necessary in a democratic society. please point to where is said that "sigh"! oh did you see/ i didnt DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamnratbag Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) At the risk of being lambasted - what people are talking about here is tagging which is not graffiti. Its prevalence is due to a combination of several things, the council has less money to deal with things like this, disproportionately so in comparison to other cities as we are getting hammered with cuts far and above others, cuts to services such as the police pcso's etc and lack of youth services to keep all the bored and itchy fingered yoofs occupied with other things being the main ones I can think of. It's a pain in the arse for businesses who have to remove it at their own cost and does look scruffy. How to combat it - I honestly don't know. Council is all on trying to provide statutory services with another £50 million in cuts over the next 3 years so fresh out of ideas. Edited May 20, 2016 by steamnratbag wrong ammount if only it was £50!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentb Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 At the risk of being lambasted - what people are talking about here is tagging which is not graffiti. Yes it is graffiti. It's the most common, ordinary, type of graffiti; it's exactly what people think of if you were to ask them what graffiti is. Not sure what definitions you're using, but in normal usage that's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euroout23 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 At the risk of being lambasted - what people are talking about here is tagging which is not graffiti. Its prevalence is due to a combination of several things, the council has less money to deal with things like this, disproportionately so in comparison to other cities as we are getting hammered with cuts far and above others, cuts to services such as the police pcso's etc and lack of youth services to keep all the bored and itchy fingered yoofs occupied with other things being the main ones I can think of. It's a pain in the arse for businesses who have to remove it at their own cost and does look scruffy. How to combat it - I honestly don't know. Council is all on trying to provide statutory services with another £50 in cuts over the next 3 years so fresh out of ideas. tags and graffiti exactly the same no merit not art just some lazy little scrote that wants to deface and damage other peoples property and contribute nothing. dont blame cuts on things like youth service because they will still do it no matter what, if the yoofs are bored make them work cleaning up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 At the risk of being lambasted - what people are talking about here is tagging which is not graffiti. Its prevalence is due to a combination of several things, the council has less money to deal with things like this, disproportionately so in comparison to other cities as we are getting hammered with cuts far and above others, cuts to services such as the police pcso's etc and lack of youth services to keep all the bored and itchy fingered yoofs occupied with other things being the main ones I can think of. It's a pain in the arse for businesses who have to remove it at their own cost and does look scruffy. How to combat it - I honestly don't know. Council is all on trying to provide statutory services with another £50 in cuts over the next 3 years so fresh out of ideas. You know nothing .. are you related to Jon Snow? Graffiti is any form of writing or drawing painted or scratched illicitly onto any surface, normally in public view. The scratched markings on the slabs used to build the great pyramids in giza is considered graffiti! Most graffiti artists start with tagging, they progress to what we would see as art but this is a heavily stylised form of the tag that as developed over time as the arts talents grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmanblue Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I dont care what you want to call it, but it is unwanted, it devalues our property and costs me each time to get it removed. No idea how I can stop someone who I can not identify as the culprit and get them to clean it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I dont care what you want to call it, but it is unwanted, it devalues our property and costs me each time to get it removed. No idea how I can stop someone who I can not identify as the culprit and get them to clean it up! CCTV maybe. Get enough footage to identify them and pass it to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamnratbag Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Yes it is unwanted I never said it wasn't. Yes it is tagging, there are lots of differentiations perhaps which haven't made it into the Oxford dictionary yet but there you go. Yes they will still do it but cuts don't help directly or indirectly there are correlations. How can I be related to Jon Snow? He's a fictional character I wouldn't want to be anyway - the things I'd do to that lad it would be wrong. But I suppose that would just make me a Lannister Edited May 20, 2016 by steamnratbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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