JFKvsNixon Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So being a Christian means being in relationship with God. Secondly, this relationship with God comes through God's generosity towards us in Jesus. It is not by any effort on our part, but through God's kindness (Ephesians 2:6-9). And his grace and kindness is given to us in Jesus his divine Son. Who would have more of a chance of getting to heaven. Someone who lived a selfless and altruistic life, full of self-sacrifice & helping others but did not worship Jesus. Or Heinrich Himmler, one man who was indirectly involved in the murders of million and and caused suffering on a unimaginable, but who repented and turned towards Jesus just before he died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Who would have more of a chance of getting to heaven. Someone who lived a selfless and altruistic life, full of self-sacrifice & helping others but do not worship Jesus. Or Heinrich Himmler, one man who was indirectly involved in the murders of million and and caused suffering on a unimaginable, but who repented and turned towards Jesus just before he died? Those you've mentioned first of course. The only right thing Heinrich Himmler ever did was to swallow that cyanide pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Those you've mentioned first of course. How exactly would that work? How would non-believers get into heaven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Who would have more of a chance of getting to heaven. Someone who lived a selfless and altruistic life, full of self-sacrifice & helping others but did not worship Jesus. Or Heinrich Himmler, one man who was indirectly involved in the murders of million and and caused suffering on a unimaginable, but who repented and turned towards Jesus just before he died? We are called not to judge if somebody on there death bed accepts Jesus as Lord , the bible promises them eternal life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Does God get fed up of having to forgive sex offenders, murderers and people who do awful things during their lives No People are not their actions Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 How exactly would that work? How would non-believers get into heaven?I don't know "how" I don't even know how heaven can be described. Its impossible to visualise, and unless experiencing a sad situation that causes us to wonder about the afterlife I don't think its really necessary to dwell on those thoughts too often, there's too much to focus on in this life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 We are called not to judge if somebody on there death bed accepts Jesus as Lord , the bible promises them eternal life So Heinrich Himmler would get in, and the person who hadn't opened their heart to Jesus would be barred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So Heinrich Himmler would get in, and the person who hadn't opened their heart to Jesus would be barred? Well God committed a larger genocide than the Nazi's, so why do you think he would be against Himmler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Well God committed a larger genocide than the Nazi's, so why do you think he would be against Himmler? are you talking about the exodus, charmer? that wasn't god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 are you talking about the exodus, charmer? that wasn't god Well he did deliberately murder children in Exodus, is murdering specifically all the first born of one race genocide? But I was referring to the flood, which is in Genesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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