davyboy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Out of the "Would you buy an Apple watch" thread comes this question. What exactly in your view would be the end of world poverty? Enough to eat? Holidays abroad? Eradication of disease? TV in every home. Sanitation and clean water for all? WHAT?? And could the Earth sustain it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Out of the "Would you buy an Apple watch" thread comes this question. What exactly in your view would be the end of world poverty? Enough to eat? Holidays abroad? Eradication of disease? TV in every home. Sanitation and clean water for all? WHAT?? And could the Earth sustain it??? Enough to survive. Food, clothing, education. All of which is easily possible if we invest money in the right places, instead of holding billions in tax free offshore accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbob Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Enough to survive. Food, clothing, education. All of which is easily possible if we invest money in the right places, instead of holding billions in tax free offshore accounts. When you do the math it is clearly not possible, there simply isn't enough for everyone the planet to all all the things you want them to have, cut the population and it would be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 When you do the math it is clearly not possible, there simply isn't enough for everyone the planet to all all the things you want them to have, cut the population and it would be possible. It would be though. Look at how the Comic/Sports relief charity spends their money. They give small loans to people who want to start their own business. The money is then paid back. And I'll bet you diamonds that the money made by these new businesses are not held in offshore accounts. The amount of money made by large western corporate organisations would easily end world poverty, many times over! That is an undeniable fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbob Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It would be though. Look at how the Comic/Sports relief charity spends their money. They give small loans to people who want to start their own business. The money is then paid back. And I'll bet you diamonds that the money made by these new businesses are not held in offshore accounts. The amount of money made by large western corporate organisations would easily end world poverty, many times over! That is an undeniable fact! Comic Relief The July 2010 accounts for charity registration 326568 show grant payments of £59 million, net assets of £135 million, with an investment portfolio held in a range of managed pooled funds and fixed term deposits. The average full-time staff was 214, with 14 staff paid over £60,000 with remuneration for the year, excluding pensions, for Kevin Cahill, chief executive of £120,410. Would you cut Kevin's wage? Comic Relief has raised over £750 million, yet they have only payed out £59 million. How much as poverty dropped as a result of that £59 million spend. ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 09:44 ---------- The amount of money made by large western corporate organisations would easily end world poverty, many times over! That is an undeniable fact! If it is an undeniable fact it will be easy for you to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Comic Relief The July 2010 accounts for charity registration 326568 show grant payments of £59 million, net assets of £135 million, with an investment portfolio held in a range of managed pooled funds and fixed term deposits. The average full-time staff was 214, with 14 staff paid over £60,000 with remuneration for the year, excluding pensions, for Kevin Cahill, chief executive of £120,410. Would you cut Kevin's wage? Comic Relief has raised over £750 million, yet they have only payed out £59 million. How much as poverty dropped as a result of that £59 million spend. If it is an undeniable fact it will be easy for you to prove it. presumably the 750 million refers to the whole period they have been in operation and the 59 millions refers to just their 2010 financial year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Comic Relief The July 2010 accounts for charity registration 326568 show grant payments of £59 million, net assets of £135 million, with an investment portfolio held in a range of managed pooled funds and fixed term deposits. The average full-time staff was 214, with 14 staff paid over £60,000 with remuneration for the year, excluding pensions, for Kevin Cahill, chief executive of £120,410. Would you cut Kevin's wage? Comic Relief has raised over £750 million, yet they have only payed out £59 million. How much as poverty dropped as a result of that £59 million spend. ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 09:44 ---------- If it is an undeniable fact it will be easy for you to prove it. If the wage is justifiable, then I don't begrudge it being paid. Charities the size of comic relief need to attract extremely skilled business men away from careers in banking and other lucrative roles. Comic relief have helped save millions of life's and continue to do so. The money they raise from the public each year is a drop in the ocean compared to the $100 billion apple has in its tax free offshore accounts. Even the total £750 million!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloom Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 There is plenty to go round if resources where shared appropriately and people were able to reap the rewards of their labour, without others wanting to make huge profits on the backs of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 There is plenty to go round if resources where shared appropriately and people were able to reap the rewards of their labour, without others wanting to make huge profits on the backs of others. Well said sir! And there's more than enough cash held in accounts, doing nothing, that could be freed up to start the ball rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Throwing money at fixing poverty doesn't work, never has, never will. Reason is that the inherent mechanism of trying to fix it with money will destroy the system where the money came from. If you want to solve world poverty you need to begin at the basics: allow (land) ownership everywhere and protect it sufficiently in legal terms, limit births to a sustainable level worldwide and educate the entire population, not just the chosen few. ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 12:55 ---------- Well said sir! And there's more than enough cash held in accounts, doing nothing, that could be freed up to start the ball rolling. Nonsense. As I said, if you were to use that mechanism you would destroy the system where the money came from. Karl Marx even knew this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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