yellowperil Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 in all seriousness what do you think would have happened if there was no opposition to her plans? would those thousands of jobs been safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You want free tips and free parking everywhere. And BTL isn't "working", by the way. It is parasitism. BTL is a business like any other ,there to make profit for the owner . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The miners were living in a different century, Madge soon put em right. As for Scargill, dunno why Madge gets all the vitriol ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeMac Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 BTL is a business like any other ,there to make profit for the owner . It is massively underwritten by the taxpayer. Anyone with a basic grasp of economics can see that. It also kills off the chances of many tens of thousands of young people by artificially inflating house prices. A rental market, backed by a scared government. Enjoy your rental income. It isn't working though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This fight wasn't just about the miners, but about bringing down the Trade Unions. Much as I dislike Scargill, what he said about the number of pits being closed was true, something Thatcher lied about to the end. If she had dared to admit the truth would she still have been regarded as the great politician? Some areas never recovered and it created the underclass that we still live with today, multi-generational benefit dependency was unknown before then. Nor were all the jobs replaced with new industries. We will probably never have full employment again. It has also allowed for the demonisation of the working classes. Recent years have graphically shown that every working man is the poorer for the demise of the Trade Union Movement. With no one to stand up for the working man, disgraceful practices such as 0 hours contracts, and poor working conditions and wages have been allowed to flourish unopposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowperil Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 There are too many "im alright jack" types now. Unions have been demonised. The "take your bait but dont tell your mate" people are just selfish and have no concept of standing together to be counted,sense of community or loyalty. When they get screwed over though they can expect no support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This fight wasn't just about the miners, but about bringing down the Trade Unions. Much as I dislike Scargill, what he said about the number of pits being closed was true, something Thatcher lied about to the end. If she had dared to admit the truth would she still have been regarded as the great politician? Some areas never recovered and it created the underclass that we still live with today, multi-generational benefit dependency was unknown before then. Nor were all the jobs replaced with new industries. We will probably never have full employment again. It has also allowed for the demonisation of the working classes. Recent years have graphically shown that every working man is the poorer for the demise of the Trade Union Movement. With no one to stand up for the working man, disgraceful practices such as 0 hours contracts, and poor working conditions and wages have been allowed to flourish unopposed. Whilst i agree about the lack of representation for the common man, Scargill was a lunatic, self obsessed, power hungry and deluded. Pig headed. He lead the miners like lambs to the slaughter, and came out the other side well looked after. We were the old man of Europe, stuck in some weird war state bubble, going nowhere. Your average man may have had a low paid job, but he lived in a hovel, Bard St like, with a crap life expectancy through snorting various poisons in his line of work, or the heating of his house. I'm not saying Madge was an angel, but we'd have been lobbing stones from wooden rafts at the argies were it not for her. ---------- Post added 13-03-2014 at 01:08 ---------- There are too many "im alright jack" types now. Scargill's on JSA aint he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowperil Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I dont see the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I dont see the connection. Come again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Clowning Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I don't think that Penistone has ever grafted like a miner. He seems to just want free stuff. Why do you always highlight the word Penis ? Have you got something against forum members ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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