Cyclone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I asked that very question to the manager,his reply was that if the assistant SUSPECTED the alcohol could be for a person under 18 [which it wasnt] she would be breaking the law by serving me. Unless you could prove that the girl was your daughter then technically they are correct... But I'm in agreement with you, refusing to serve an adult who has a child family member with them is ridiculous, I'd be quite happy to walk out and leave a weeks shopping for them to try to restock at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I think the law presumes that if your kids drink alcohol in the house then you will be responsible and ensure that they don't overdo it..if you buy it for them in the supermarket and give it to them to drink as and when they want you won't have quite the same control... I agree but I think Kidley's point is that this approach is muddled and probably not that effective as retailers can't supervise alcohol use at the point of consumption. ---------- Post added 02-01-2014 at 12:52 ---------- That's insane. What kind of uniform, not that it really makes any difference? Up until 2003 it was an offence to sell alcohol to a police officer in uniform! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I agree but I think Kidley's point is that this approach is muddled and probably not that effective as retailers can't supervise alcohol use at the point of consumption. I'd be interested to hear Kidley's solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I work in a supermarket and yes I agree it's very stupid and makes us look pedantic and ridiculous sometimes. I've had to refuse people before and I've been threatened and abused over it which was pretty scary. However, we are CONSTANTLY having training on Think 25 and what the repercussions are of us selling alcohol that end up in the hands of a minor. I would lose my job, get a massive fine that I couldn't pay and I could even face prosecution. For me, it's really not worth the risk unfortunately so I'm super cautious. I agree though it's senseless. How do you imagine that you can somehow prevent parents from giving alcohol to their children? And why would you, when it's perfectly legal (assuming they are over 5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I'd be interested to hear Kidley's solution... I ant got one. as i said above i cannot get my head around it, i still think it is illegal to buy alcohol for any minor even your own kids. but its not illegal to let them drink ( what you have bought ) it in letts say private. Edited January 2, 2014 by kidley added text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Unless you could prove that the girl was your daughter then technically they are correct... But I'm in agreement with you, refusing to serve an adult who has a child family member with them is ridiculous, I'd be quite happy to walk out and leave a weeks shopping for them to try to restock at that point. No. Regardless of what the manager may have said, the Sales Assistant would NOT be breaking the law. Like I have said, even the Managers need re-training. If the Sales Assistant/Cashier can be proved to have known that this was a proxy sale on behalf of a minor, then they can be found guilty of a crime, but it is almost impossible to prove. Edited January 2, 2014 by cgksheff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza58 Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Unless you could prove that the girl was your daughter then technically they are correct... But I'm in agreement with you, refusing to serve an adult who has a child family member with them is ridiculous, I'd be quite happy to walk out and leave a weeks shopping for them to try to restock at that point. I offered to show them both mine and my daughters driving licence to prove she was my daughter,i was told it made no difference.Im not much of a drinker TBH and i was only buying it for new years eve [not for my daughter]so by next new years eve she will be 18 anyway so i wont have to hide her outside to avoid a repeat of this problem:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Here are facts and the law https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts/alcohol-and-the-law/buying-alcohol Had to laugh at this, maximum sentence 10 years, maximum sentence for theft 7 years here So if he was getting it for a child, should have nicked it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Had to laugh at this, maximum sentence 10 years, maximum sentence for theft 7 years here So if he was getting it for a child, should have nicked it lol Where does it say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Where does it say that? Sorry I meant to put had his daughter borrowed id, as in the link you posted it says max 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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