The New Moor Market

[ECCOnoob]

Well two of the three things you describe are down to the traders. They choose what goods they sell on their stall and they are the ones who create the "atmosphere". They have only got themselves to blame for any failure.

 

As for design, what would you prefer Sheffield Market to be like? What do you think was lacking?

 

We don't have a grand 1900s built market hall as most of our original market buildings were bombed in the war. We had an ugly 60s concrete block in the wrong end of town which was decaying to core and in the wrong end of the city.

[Eric Arthur]

Something is very wrong down there. I walked through last week and I'd estimate that about half of the non meat stands were closed in the main hall. The ones that were open were making a good effort to cover up the shutters and make it look more lively though.

[Detetcive]

Something is very wrong down there. I walked through last week and I'd estimate that about half of the non meat stands were closed in the main hall. The ones that were open were making a good effort to cover up the shutters and make it look more lively though.

 

On the other hand, the food area was packed yesterday - not a table to be had and a new fish and chip shop has just opened.

[smiggs]

Something is very wrong down there. I walked through last week and I'd estimate that about half of the non meat stands were closed in the main hall. The ones that were open were making a good effort to cover up the shutters and make it look more lively though.

 

Some of the stalls don't open everyday, last time I went on a Saturday it looked like about 1/3 were closed and a few of those only recently but there's a fair rotation quite a few new stalls as well. Remember we're talking about new small businesses, there will many more failures than successes.

[happyaslarry]

The Market Chippy, previously the Castle Chippy on the old Castle Market, then Seafayre on Charles Street, may well be the business that helps the Moor Market to turn the corner. Plus there is Waterall Brothers, the butchers, some good specialist food stalls and excellent fish merchants. Take a look at Cod & Cockle.

 

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Edited February 11, 2016 by happyaslarry

[foxy lady]

Yesterday I parked up at the tennis club on Ecclesall Road and walked down to The site of the old Ward's Brewery. The contrast to the Moor was startling. I must have passed around 60 or more coffee shops, pubs, cafes and restaurants on that short stretch. There were also hairdressers, clothes shops, a guitar shop, a gun shop, a couple of supermarkets and even a made to measure tailor.

That is what the Moor needs to pull in custom. Ecclesall Road is alive at night. The Moor is a ghost town where I wouldn't feel safe walking around.

[AlexAtkin]

Which is exactly what they are trying to do, make The Moor more popular at night.

 

Its never going to be like Ecclesall Road as that is catering to a very different subset of the population IMO. I wouldn't want it to be either, its impossible to walk down there in the evening when its busy as there are too-many people, they spill into the road.

 

I don't know what people seem to be expecting of The Moor. I have walked around Manchester, Leeds, Leicester and Nottingham at night. All have parts of the city centre that are primarily shopping and so are a bit lonely at night.

 

There simply isn't the space for a ton of bars and day-time shops in the same location, neither does it make much sense to have both in the same location. That is not making the most of the location for either day or evening opening premises.

 

It makes far more sense for the businesses to have ones with similar opening times in the same place. It allows people to easily walk from one pub/club to the next without having to go miles.

 

Its interesting you mention Ecclesall Road as there are plenty of shops on there I hardly ever visit purely because its miles away from the shops I do visit, which proves my point. From a business point of view, you don't want people to have to walk miles from their usual route to visit you. Ecclesall Road gets away with that because for many students that IS their normal route. The Moor however is a very different thing.

Edited February 13, 2016 by AlexAtkin

[samssong]

I have visited the new Market today and to be honest it is a joke.

The cafe area [although rammed]is a joke with people sat around using it as a public meeting area,.

There seems to be groups of regulars who pull tables together so as to create their own little clubs ,these clubs are often without any noticeable food intake or drinks..

Some of the tables have a cup of well drunk tea customer who seems to spend hours taking up space while spending nothing whatsoever.

 

The customer who wishes to dine and spend looks around and decides it is a waste of time and goes else where.

The cafes should have their own areas so as to get rid off the people who are useing the Market as a social club.

 

The butchers are doing great business if you can actually get to them as the walkway to their frontage is jammed ,this is due to the designers placing the stalls to near to the opposite [often unused ] stalls.

 

The empty units seem to be growing by the day and are a turn off to the casual observer .

[AlexAtkin]

Why shouldn't people use the cafe area for group meets? How is that any different than using a pub or an individual cafe? Are you suggesting they should hold the moor market cafe to a higher standard than anywhere else?

 

You would only alienate even more people from the market if you start kicking people out for staying too long or not buying anything.

[samssong]

Why shouldn't people use the cafe area for group meets? How is that any different than using a pub or an individual cafe? Are you suggesting they should hold the moor market cafe to a higher standard than anywhere else?

 

You would only alienate even more people from the market if you start kicking people out for staying too long or not buying anything.

 

So would you like to comment on the customer who wishes to use the cafe area to dine , looks around, finds all the space taken by non users , then decides to go else where.

The cafe should have their own designated areas,.