What do you consider to be todays biggest evils?

[El Cid 221]

Mother's who would just love to stay home until their children go to full time school. Unfortunately because of mortgage commitments they can't afford to, and baby has to be left with someone else during the day.

 

We could start new threads from each persons answer, lol.

 

I partially agree, but with tax credits, do families need two working parents.

[geared 321]

The slow erosion of our liberty and the advancement of the nanny state.

[Tradescanthia 10]

What about countries who don't have Tories? Are they all happy and rich and fulfilled and that ?

 

Every country has Torys, they call them Fascists or Junta's or Nationalists, but they all fit the same description.

[DaFoot 10]

Consumerism Not sure if this is more about globalisation, but it seems that we are a throw away society, and so much of our leisure time seems to be steered towards shopping, buying, etc. This has definitely increased over the last 30 years. Also I think its much more intrusive as well.

 

This.

As people want more and more for lower and lower prices it will drive at least some of the other issues you mention.

[MrSmith 10]

Mother's who would just love to stay home until their children go to full time school. Unfortunately because of mortgage commitments they can't afford to, and baby has to be left with someone else during the day.

 

I take you mean the system that means she can't stay at home, is the evil and not the mother for wanting to stay at home.

Edited April 24, 2013 by MrSmith

[Mister M 1,633]

Torys...............they are the biggest evil. They are at their happiest when they are inflicting pain and misery on some poor sod.

 

Interesting thing about the Tories is that in the 1950s and 1960s when Supermac was in power they built a huge amount of homes and by today's standards would be way to the left of the Labour Party on most issues.

But certainly 'Mrs Thatcher's children' in the Tory party now are much meaner and narrower in their vision.

 

The power of the media - wayyyy too much and wayyyy too little responsability.

The relentless drive to give everyone degrees at the expense of those who don't.

Treatment of the elderly.

Politics and politicians. Media trained politicians with no real world experience and hardly a gnats fart between the three main parties.

 

I might add to this later.

 

 

I certainly agree with your point about the media, specifically the print media at the grottier, scabbier end of the market.

However newspaper sales are declining so the likes of Murdoch and his cronies will have less influence.

Leveson was a great opportunity to kick the Mail and all the others in the ********...but certain politicians flunked it.

I don't think it's ther fact that MPs have no real experience that's the problem (they have well paid consultancies for that), i think the agenda of politicians is way too narrow and once again parading under the banner of choice, all talk the same stupid slogans.

[francypants 446]

GREED.

 

Nobody seems to be satisfied with what they've got, always wanting and expecting more .... even if they can't afford it.

[tinfoilhat 11]

Every country has Torys, they call them Fascists or Junta's or Nationalists, but they all fit the same description.

 

Every country has a Tory government ? I don't think that's right. What about the labour/socialist ones? It must be milk and honey there like it was here just 3 short years ago. ;)

 

Ignore me. I'm taking the mick because singling out one crap party over two other crap parties is the height of lunacy.

 

Oh and add twitter to the list. Pointless, but for some reason has importance attached to it. And the current state of popular music.

 

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GREED.

 

Nobody seems to be satisfied with what they've got, always wanting and expecting more .... even if they can't afford it.

 

Including I'd wager, most on here unless everyone is a cleaner and lives as a pauper. We all want the best for our families don't we ? The more money we have the easier that makes it doesn't it ?

[poppet2 13]

I take you mean the system that means she can't stay at home, is the evil and not the mother for wanting to stay at home.

 

Yes. This would also allow women time to cook healthy fresh food each day for the family, rather than buying processed convenience food. Also, mother could help children do their homework.

 

Also, I hate Sunday Trading, close all shops and make Sundays as they used to be.

[Mister M 1,633]

I don't agree with your first point about the widening gap between rich and poor.

 

I think the gap between rich and poor has closed a lot over the years. People at lower levels of society have never had so much money. Nearly every family has at least 1 car - many have more than 1.

 

When I was a kid it was not many families, in the small mining village where I grew up, who had their own transport.

 

A holiday would be a rare thing - maybe once a year if lucky - and that might be a day trip or two. Sometimes it would be a whole week at Skeggy, or Brid, or Scarboro, or Blackpool. Little resorts sprang up around these major resorts, places like Hornsea, Withernsea, Cleethorpes, Filey, Mablethorpe, etc.

But working class people could never afford to go abroad.

 

I remember hearing about famous footballers, like George Best, going on holiday to Majorca. Wow! we all thought. That must be Paradise to be able to afford to go there.

 

Nowadays, most folks have been abroad and Majorca isn't exactly an exclusive resort.

 

The 'have nots' of our society seem to have got quite a lot more than they ever had when I was a kid. 50" plasma screen TV's and Blu Ray players are standard - but still not much good food on the table. That much hasn't changed - in fact it's got worse.

 

My biggest evils would be:

 

1 The erosion of our culture and values by other cultures and values

2 The contamination of the food chain in the interests of profit

3 The buggeration of society by financial institutions that have too much power

4 The way Americanisms, in particular, have ruined our language and lifestyle (like McDonald's and all that garbage)

5 The loss of freedom of speech in favour of political correctness

 

Certainly point number 3 is very pertinent. And true.

 

You're point about people becoming richer is an interesting one.....I think that in spite of the last 5 years with the credit crunch suppressing people's wages, the illusion of wealth is too apparent.

Most people nowadays carry a hell of a lot of private debt, in a way 30/40 years ago they didn't. If and when interest rates rise, you'll soon see how close to the edge some people are living.

I think many people including me are spiritually poor, while having more things. We are spoiled to some extent,a as compared to my garndparent's generation - but seem to be no more content for it.

 

It's interesting that you say the growth of political correctness is a problem, because I think that in the last 20 years or so that's been a positive development. That people in authority, think twice before degarding people for who they are (if they are of a different skin colour, sexuality) etc. It's 20 years since Stephen Lawrence was killed and the in various interviews chiefs of police have been vocal in their attempts to stamp out the 'canteen culture' that many people find so offensive.

[MrSmith 10]

Yes. This would also allow women time to cook healthy fresh food each day for the family, rather than buying processed convenience food. Also, mother could help children do their homework.

In that case I agree but in some respects the situation was caused by working women, families that have both parents working can afford to pay more for an house, house prices are driven in part by affordability, the more someone can afford to pay the more the price will rise, this lead to more women having to go to work to afford an home, as more women entered the workplace household incomes increased there by allowing prices to increase.

[Mister M 1,633]

This.

As people want more and more for lower and lower prices it will drive at least some of the other issues you mention.

 

Often lower prices for us mean some poor kid in a sweatshop in China or India have to work all hours God sends:(

If countries were more protectionist and we started to produce what we consume would things improve?