taxman   12 #61 Posted December 11, 2012  can we put in letters of support?  Yes you can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #62 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Good point Libuse that people needing psychiatric support are living among us anyway. Mental health problems affect all of us in our lifetimes - personally, and in our friends and families. I feel disappointed in the prejudice, selfishness and lack of understanding in the objections. I live not far from here and do not feel the way the objectors do, understanding the need for such centres in the community. I've also been a support worker and manager of a crisis house in the community and it was a really difficult job, in particular in having to respond to and manage the anxieties (and sometimes aggression) of local residents.  Very true.  Considering mental health problems will affect one in four of us, in our lifetimes, I feel it's a horrendously short-sighted point of view for the residents to take.  Also, something to consider:- even the most dreadfully badly affected of the projected client base would be far more likely to be of danger to themselves than any neighbour or random member of the public.  ---------- Post added 11-12-2012 at 23:28 ----------  Crisis in mental health terms does not mean 'violence and disorder'. Have a read of the response to the objections from Rethink that's available on the planning page:  sorry, I've gone and said pretty much the same thing in my post! ^^^ Edited December 11, 2012 by Plain Talker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
navyblue   10 #63 Posted December 11, 2012 What ever happened to destigmatising mental health? Not everyone with a mental health problem is violent. it's a crisis house not a secure unit. Nether Edge middle classes, shame on you.  i would like a LIKE Button as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pippadoll   10 #64 Posted December 11, 2012 The caring professions in S7  Many of these do charitable work for the city too.     Child law Engineer Computer design Cancer researcher Head of pensions and employment Local vintage supplier Public school teacher NHS consultant Cultural historian PR person who fund raises by holding house parties Designer Fundraiser through running Another lecturer Another NHS consultant On line sales co Head teacher Mental health nurse Local gallery shop owner Legal services Another head teacher Director engineer Care services Legal advisor Employment judge Church fundraiser for homeless Music technologist Stay at home mum E tech co Professor of law Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jessica23 Â Â 10 #65 Posted December 11, 2012 Wow, pippadoll. That's really uncomfortable reading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mikem8634   10 #66 Posted December 12, 2012  can we put in letters of support?  If you can then the quote below could form part of a template.  Sad things for these ere locals of Nether Edge is that it is the ideal sort of area for such housing.... Large houses, so there is a community of fellows: a fairly reasonable area, so no likely abuse in the street of the residents Near to facilities and "town" so no sense of isolation  Psychiatric Unit at the old hospital I believe.....It really is an ideal location Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
S10mainly   10 #67 Posted December 12, 2012 A lesson on how to post in a dismissive and rude manner. ---------- Post added 11-12-2012 at 23:00 ----------   A lesson in how to post in a friendly and informative manner.  I wasnt aware that I had to be polite to ill-informed people...is it a general rule in life or does it just apply to you?  --------  There is something about the general approach to mental illness that makes me think of pitch-forks and fires late at night -Even amongst the supposedly well-educated, liberal sorts there seems to be a mistaken idea that witch-craft (or call it what you will) is involved - You know, it is somehow "their fault", even though, as mentioned, it affects 1 in 4 people at some point.  I understand that at first glance it may not be the sort of thing we want near "us" but what are we to do. sweep these people away and let them rot in a "unit"? Or maybe by seeing and being part of their lives we can begin to understand they they are "just us, on a bad day"....  It really isnt often that my fascist b**astard hackles get a rise but this case really does make me go "grrrr!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
*_ash_* Â Â 88 #68 Posted December 12, 2012 I've surprised myself. I would oppose it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
S10mainly   10 #69 Posted December 12, 2012 I've surprised myself. I would oppose it.  why would you do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
*_ash_* Â Â 88 #70 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) why would you do that? Â Because I think the house is $h!t. Â There are plenty of houses that are non-semis in the same area if that's the area they want, (and that would reduce the number of objections too); and I know that other properties which are detached have larger gardens. Â A MH crisis place needs a nice garden. The garden at 29 is small and pokey. Â I've read all the objections, and I think they all mask what they really mean, and that is that they feel their house value will reduce - and based on that, I don't think it's fair to name and shame as mentioned on earlier posts. I think that is a fair point - BASED ON THAT PARTICULAR property. Â For reasons known to me, I know of most of the locations of similar places all over Sheffield, and perhaps some S10's would be surprised how close they are to them. (edit: not meaning you, I just noticed you are s10 in name - might have been subconscious I saw Fulwood mentioned earlier in thread, is why) Â I simply think the property is wrong. Edited December 12, 2012 by *_ash_* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
S10mainly   10 #71 Posted December 12, 2012 I dont know of the property, I do know of nether edge though - and as i mentioned it is a good place to have such a facility  Some of S10 would be good too, though most of it is a bit isolated and suburban.  Id definately agree that a Crisis House wants to ve Detached though, the thought of the people there having to deal with the neighbours is too much to contemplate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
*_ash_*   88 #72 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I dont know of the property, I do know of nether edge though - and as i mentioned it is a good place to have such a facility  Nether Edge is beautiful in places. Much of it designed by Wostenholme in the late 19th Century. And as mentioned, there are other similar type places in the area. The buildings are different though.  Some of S10 would be good too, though most of it is a bit isolated and suburban.  It is good for many people there. And not many people know about them, and I know it doesn't affect house prices.  Id definately agree that a Crisis House wants to ve Detached though, the thought of the people there having to deal with the neighbours is too much to contemplate  MH issues are, and perhaps always will have stigmas attached to them for some people. I personally think the objections are from people who are worried about their houses values. And I don't think that is something that they should be slagged off for. Everyone, and I mean everyone in that area knows at least one other place very close to them. It doesn't cause any problems, but one (or neither) are semi-detached houses right on the road front. Edited December 12, 2012 by *_ash_* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...